Ayo Dosunmu & Kofi Cockburn Named Sporting News All-Americans
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Sporting News released their All American teams. Ayo first team, Kofi second team.
Wait, doesn't missing 3 games automatically give you awards?
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
I think it's only titles.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Awesome! Ayo is likely to become our 15th "Consensus" All-American, per Sports Reference, though I am not 100% on how many publications are included and if Kofi has a good shot, too? Here is the list:
Dee Brown: 2005 (1st), 2006 (2nd)
Deron Williams: 2005 (2nd)
Luther Head: 2005 (2nd)
Kendall Gill: 1990 (2nd)
Ken Norman: 1987 (2nd)
Rod Fletcher: 1952 (1st)
Bill Erickson: 1949 (2nd)
Walton Kirk: 1945 (1st)
Andrew Phillip: 1942 (1st), 1943 (1st), 1947 (2nd)
Bill Hapac: 1940 (1st)
Charles Carney: 1920 (1st), 1922 (1st)
Earl Anderson: 1918 (1st)
Clyde Alwood: 1917 (1st)
Ray Woods:1915 (1st), 1916 (1st), 1917 (1st)
A lot of AWFULLY great Illini to never make that list, so well done indeed to Kofi and Ayo!!
Dee Brown: 2005 (1st), 2006 (2nd)
Deron Williams: 2005 (2nd)
Luther Head: 2005 (2nd)
Kendall Gill: 1990 (2nd)
Ken Norman: 1987 (2nd)
Rod Fletcher: 1952 (1st)
Bill Erickson: 1949 (2nd)
Walton Kirk: 1945 (1st)
Andrew Phillip: 1942 (1st), 1943 (1st), 1947 (2nd)
Bill Hapac: 1940 (1st)
Charles Carney: 1920 (1st), 1922 (1st)
Earl Anderson: 1918 (1st)
Clyde Alwood: 1917 (1st)
Ray Woods:1915 (1st), 1916 (1st), 1917 (1st)
A lot of AWFULLY great Illini to never make that list, so well done indeed to Kofi and Ayo!!
what a joke.. Garza as POY over 3-4 others in the nation.. including AYO and KOFI.. they are better than garza..
The press knighted Garza before the beginning of the year and just stuck with it
The press knighted Garza before the beginning of the year and just stuck with it
Garza was the most efficient scorer on the country with the highest shot volume and usage rate of any player, while playing in the toughest conference in the country (and currently highest rated conference in KP history), shot 58-43-70 from the field, all while committing very few turnovers and rebounding in the top 25% of players. Ayo made it interesting, but Garza was still the best player in the country.
You know why it was interesting? Because Ayo is the best closer in college basketball. If he would have been able to go in the Michigan game and we still win by 20-30 pts, it would have added another wrinkle to it. But tip your cap to Garza, he's an excellent college basketball player.
And no, I wouldn't trade Ayo for Garza straight up.
AirNeezy
Orange Krush '13 -'14
Defense is 50% of the game too y'know.
Defense is a significant part of the game, but one that is at the same time more difficult to measure (just playing good defense won't show up in any statistics, steals and blocks aren't everything), and less noticeable in the overall game flow, and particularly of less meaning to player of the year voting. Defense is also much more team-oriented than individual oriented, which makes it more difficult to ascertain a single player's defensive value, certainly not enough to hand wave away a significant offensive statistical anomaly that is Garza's season.
How often is it that the guy who has the highest possession percentage in the league also takes the most shots, but is at the same time the most effective FG shooter in the league? That is the anomaly that is Luka Garza, and that shouldn't be ignored just because Ayo is at the same time awesome and crazy efficient at the end of games.
AirNeezy
Orange Krush '13 -'14
Garza is widely accepted as being garbage defensively, so much so that he's been taken out of games during key crunch time defensive possessions.
This is not true, and he was actually above the conference average in defensive rating percentage, and played a higher percentage of minutes than all but 8 players in the B1G.
Playing a higher percentage of minutes doesn't address late game offense for defense substitutions, which I believe is what @AirNeezy was referencing. As for being an above average defender in conferences, that's hard to believe given that Iowa's team defensive efficiency was 12th of 14 teams in the Big Ten.
That being said, National Player of the year is won on the offensive end of the court. Ayo has an excellent resume. I hope he wins one of the major player of the year awards, but I don't think he's the favorite at this point.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
I think there is a chance Ayo could snag one of them. If that happened, I would be happy enough. A reasonable contrarian pick is valuable in this age of clicks, likes, and web traffic.
DICKnaggie
- Champaign
In all the discussion regarding Garza, let's think about him as he compares to ML (who had crazy athletic ability). I guess it is teams taking a pass on production at the college level vs. potential at the pro level? Meyers' production here was a sliver of Garza. Meyers objectively hasn't panned out (which is odd bc he has all the tools). How do you not give a guy like Garza that can score from multiple levels a shot?
Coach of the Year got blown out at home without giving the least bit of competition. I know Michigan is a good team, so that leaves the old ball coach to be blamed for getting out coached and having his team unprepared for their biggest game of the season. Underwood flat outreached Juwan.
It would be really wonderful if the Illini back-to-back stomp Iowa and Michigan this coming weekend.
I would love Michigan to bow out early, we win the B1G. Then beat them in the final four.
AirNeezy
Orange Krush '13 -'14
Lmao Garza ain't going first round. Take that to the bank.
Ayo otoh I'd be surprised to see fall passed 25.
Again, not that it pertains specifically to POY, but Iowa actually finished with the 7th best defensive efficiency in B1G play, ahead of teans like Ohio State and Michigan State.
Funnily enough, they were still below league average by a bit because Michigan and Illinois was so good they basically lapped the field