B1G Conference Title to be awarded based upon winning %

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This all seems a little Iowa bannerish

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#77      
While I don't think many of us are overly fixated on who wins the regular season, we all have bigger goals for this team in mind - it's about the integrity of the league in deciding who the B1G "champion" is (and historical pride for the team, if you deserved to win it, why not reward the team most deserving). It may be a moot point, so it's not worth getting upset about until it is an actual thing to get upset about if we do finish a half game ahead of them.

Frankly, if there was a lot of disparity in the amount of games played by teams this year because of COVID and they made the decision early on, it would just be by % because of that, I think we could have accepted it - but every team managed to make up their games and play a grueling schedule to do it (except the one Nebraska - Purdue game, but hey Neb deserves props and did everything they could to play all their games, they just ran out of dates)

Michigan clearly decided to not rush back and had a full week of practice before playing and even then left open dates on the calendar when they had 4 day breaks - and for whatever reason the B1G didn't force them to make up those games. So it seems incredibly unfair to then reward them and frankly an obvious kowtow to Michigan by the Commish
 
#78      
FWIW, the Big East also decided to give their title to the team with the highest percentage. Creighton is likely to have more wins while Villanova has the higher percentage.
 
#79      
FWIW, the Big East also decided to give their title to the team with the highest percentage. Creighton is likely to have more wins while Villanova has the higher percentage.
Although its different given right now given Villanova is a half game ahead of Creighton in the standings, so they would win it by either method - win % or just win-loss record
If Villanova loses their last game and Creighton wins theirs then it's the same argument (win-loss record vs. win %)
 
#80      
While I don't think many of us are overly fixated on who wins the regular season, we all have bigger goals for this team in mind

I agree that there are bigger goals, but to me only the Final Four or national Championship are really bigger. I believe winning the B1G regular season title is bigger than getting to the Sweet 16 or Elite 8 in the NCAA or winning a weekend tournament in Indianapolis. But I acknowledge that 1) I am old fashioned in that I value the season more than a hot run in the tourney and 2) with grossly unbalanced schedules (even in normal years), the regular season championship is devalued a bit.
 
#85      
*Sigh* if only they had beaten Rutgers or Maryland.
Or if only MIchigan was required to play at least a 19 game schedule like everyone else in the big ten then this is a moot point - then there wouldn't be a conflict between win-loss record and win %

MSU and Nebraska were required to play games every other day for long stretches to make up their games. It's beyond ridiculous Michigan was treated differently and not required to make up their games
 
#86      
Or if only MIchigan was required to play at least a 19 game schedule like everyone else in the big ten then this is a moot point - then there wouldn't be a conflict between win-loss record and win %

MSU and Nebraska were required to play games every other day for long stretches to make up their games. It's beyond ridiculous Michigan was treated differently and not required to make up their games
Yes, yes, yes. I know. B$G loves Michigan and hates IL. I get it. The team can't control any of that. What they could have controlled is the games they played and like it or not, they stumbled in games they could have/ should have won. Win one of the two and the dependency on MSU is less. Win both of those games and it wouldn't matter what happens between Mich/MSU. It's kinda crummy but in the long run they did it to themselves first before B$G corp messed it up even more.
 
#87      
I am in the camp that because of this year's imbalanced schedule the Big Ten should find a way to take each teams schedule into account this year. However, as of today Michigan has played a tougher schedule than Illinois. Michigan's BT opponents have a winning percentage 44.6% and Illinois' have a 43.4% winning percentage. That surprised me.
 
#88      
Cary, IL
I am in the camp that because of this year's imbalanced schedule the Big Ten should find a way to take each teams schedule into account this year. However, as of today Michigan has played a tougher schedule than Illinois. Michigan's BT opponents have a winning percentage 44.6% and Illinois' have a 43.4% winning percentage. That surprised me.
Well, I believe that they are missing games against MSU (2), NW, IU and PSU. UI missing a 2nd against tO$U. Depending on the results the next 4 days, those numbers will change.
 
#89      
Well, I believe that they are missing games against MSU (2), NW, IU and PSU. UI missing a 2nd against tO$U. Depending on the results the next 4 days, those numbers will change.

The game I think they could have dropped is against PSU. They play fearless and up to the level of the opponent.

Plus, they have a bunch of guys who can really score.
 
#90      
Here's why the rule is inequitable in principle: say team A finishes a shortened season at 13-4, half a game behind team B at 15-5. Team A's .77 win percentage edges team B's .75 percent win percentage. If you don't understand math, you might think it's fair to award it to team A because, based on that win percentage, if they played the three last games they probably would have won them all.
But anyone that can meet U of I's admission standards will tell you that, based on that win percentage, it's more likely than not (.55) that team A WOULD LOSE at least one of those last three games, which would put them, at best, in a tie breaker with team B.
Why give them the title, when the most likely result, had they played the games, would have been a tiebreaker?
Note I said "in principle". Based on win percentage alone, a team that finishes 14 and 3 IS more like than not to win all of it's next 3.
 
#91      
There is nothing I know of that says we can't hang a banner showing the records with us on top, assuming of course we win Saturday and scUM loses one, and saying B1G champs
 
#92      
The game I think they could have dropped is against PSU. They play fearless and up to the level of the opponent.

Plus, they have a bunch of guys who can really score.
After last night's games Michigan still has had a tougher schedule than Illinois based on opponent's in-conference winning percentages. If you add in our yet to be played game against Ohio State, and their final game against Michigan State, they still have a tougher schedule than Illinois. IF they were to play the missing games their schedule against the 10th, 11th and 12th place teams only they *might* end up with an easier schedule than Illinois--but then again they might also have more wins.

There is probably some in-conference RPI out there somewhere to take a more granular look, but it just seems like whether the conference uses winning percentage or some other factor to determine the regular season champion Illinois would be very unlikely to be anything but second place.
 
#94      
I really hope we end up beating Ohio State and Michigan loses their second game against Michigan state.

Hard to imagine better locker room material. Would be a half game ahead of them but Michigan's hanging up a banner.

Very sizable chip on shoulder!
 
#95      
I think I should get some orange and blue fabric to make a banner for us. BTW she's from Iowa.
 
#97      
Orange Krush '13 -'14
My view is who cares. Let's win the BTT tourney, make the Elite Eight and in 10 years no one will remember who won the reg. season title.
 
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