B1G Forfeiture Policy

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The point here is that all reasonable attempts to reschedule will be made before there’s a forfeit. Last year, Michigan could’ve returned to play earlier, but wasn’t in “game shape” so they delayed their return. It was then practically impossible for them to make up all missed games, so their “punishment” was three no-contests and a Big Ten championship.

Under my proposal, all attempts to make up the game will be exhausted before it becomes a forfeit. But it’s unfair for any team who doesn’t play the games to have an advantage.
IMHO, not being in "game shape" should not be a valid reason to cancel a game. Not being in "game shape" may make it harder for you to win, but it doesn't prevent you from playing the game. Would it be logical for Illinois to cancel a game against Nebraska because they weren't in "game shape?" No, because chances are they would beat Nebraska anyway. If the team has enough healthy players by the time game time rolls around, they should be required to play the game.
 
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I think a hybrid of what @sacraig and @the juiceman cometh came up with would be a pretty good plan.

For the minimum % of games, you could make it an average of the amount of games everyone else in the conference played. If the rest of the conference got 95% of their games in, and you only got 85%, sorry you’re out.

And then if there is some unforeseen scenario where two teams seem deserving, use some freaking judgement and don’t be afraid to crown co-champs.

It’s like last year Kevin Warren and his cohort had never heard of more than one team hanging a banner for a regular season title in one year. Yet the year before we had THREE teams claim co-champ status.

What’s so dang hard about it? Step up and make a decision.
 
#54      
IMHO, not being in "game shape" should not be a valid reason to cancel a game. Not being in "game shape" may make it harder for you to win, but it doesn't prevent you from playing the game. Would it be logical for Illinois to cancel a game against Nebraska because they weren't in "game shape?" No, because chances are they would beat Nebraska anyway. If the team has enough healthy players by the time game time rolls around, they should be required to play the game.
Totally agree. The criteria for playing should have nothing to do with "game shape", number of practices, other very subjective criteria. It should be if X number of players are not COVID restricted, you play. Everyone has to go by the same rules. Could be a bad deal for a team, but everyone is treated equally without the "wise" intervention of some bureaucrat in the BIG10 or NCAA.
 
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Totally agree. The criteria for playing should have nothing to do with "game shape", number of practices, other very subjective criteria. It should be if X number of players are not COVID restricted, you play. Everyone has to go by the same rules. Could be a bad deal for a team, but everyone is treated equally without the "wise" intervention of some bureaucrat in the BIG10 or NCAA.

Next thing you will be advocating for equal punishment for recruiting violations. Get with the program.
 
#56      
I wonder if there would be a way to alter the “if this many players are available, you play” guidance.

If our starting 5 are out due to COVID, and we have to start our backups and play wakons lots of minutes, that’s basically a forfeit anyway.

Maybe part of the initial “get to reschedule without having to forfeit” decision can be something like “missing over 50% of players that provide the majority of minutes.”

It could only be used once per scheduled game and then if there are still COVID issues by the time the reschedule date comes around, you go back to the 7 player minimum/forfeit/no contest stuff.

If you utilize this option and run out of time to reschedule it, you forfeit anyway to de-incentive using it to casually or as a way to force a “no decision”.

Winning games is part of every coaches contract and having to play without your full team is rough (as we’ve seen). Coaches lose out on incentives/bonuses and players lose out on experiences/awards.

But maybe this is all just a “suck it up” situation. So many people have been negatively affected the past two years and lost out on money/lost jobs and livelihoods (outside of sports).

It could be that coaches and players just have to continue dealing with it as well.
 
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But maybe this is all just a “suck it up” situation. So many people have been negatively affected the past two years and lost out on money/lost jobs and livelihoods (outside of sports).

It could be that coaches and players just have to continue dealing with it as well.
I come down on this side of your argument. Yes, it would suck for us to have to play Michigan without Kofi & Company if they were all in the protocol. But, using that as an excuse to try to reschedule, when you have enough players and coaches to play, reeks of Michigan's conduct last year. I think it would still open the door for Juwan to decide not to play a team that he wasn't sure he could beat with the players at his disposal. Suck it up, play the game, and let the chips fall.
 
#58      
Maybe part of the initial “get to reschedule without having to forfeit” decision can be something like “missing over 50% of players that provide the majority of minutes.”

Interesting idea. If I was in the conference office, I wouldn't want teams that could make the tournament to miss it because they had depleted rosters. As a fan, I realize that any policy they come up with will have some controversy, especially when you pull back and look at the politicized aspects of the virus response. Just hoping the folks that want to be safe can do so and still enjoy the game they love.
 
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