Bears / NFL Thread 2018-2019

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So is it as soon as the QB breaks the tackle box that intentional grounding doesn't occur? Because it sure looked like Cousins ended up back in the tackle box on that throw.

Edit: Answer to my own question, as soon as the QB breaks the tackle box intentional grounding is no longer possible.
 
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Bears finally get a signature win and hopefully the rest of the country now realizes these guys are legit. 7-3 and 1st place in the NFC North heading into a very short week in Detroit on Thanksgiving. Team is definitely trending in the right direction though.
 
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If the Bears win in Detroit on short rest I think it shows they are focused and determined. They'll finish 12-4.

If they lose on Thursday, I think they finish 10-6.

But I guess that also depends on how the Lions play too. Sometimes they look like they belong in the playoffs. Other times they look like they should get the number 1 draft pick.
 
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I could pick some nits, but overall that was a damn impressive win last night.

If the Bears can win their next two (and they should over the Lions and Giants) they should have the division pretty close to wrapped up heading into the last quarter of the season.

Bryce Callahan is having about as good a season as it’s possible for a nickel back to have.

Floyd’s last three games have been his best three games as a Bear. He’s gone from being nearly invisible out there to constantly around the ball.
 
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Lifelong Packers fan here. But there is no doubt in my mind that you guys are the best team in the north this year. Last night solidified that in my eyes. I'm sure you'll lose a few games from now til the end of the year that'll have you beating your heads against the wall, but make no mistake...the Bears have staying power.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
I could pick some nits, but overall that was a damn impressive win last night.

If the Bears can win their next two (and they should over the Lions and Giants) they should have the division pretty close to wrapped up heading into the last quarter of the season.

Bryce Callahan is having about as good a season as it’s possible for a nickel back to have.

Floyd’s last three games have been his best three games as a Bear. He’s gone from being nearly invisible out there to constantly around the ball.
It is a pretty good defense, when your biggest concern is Floyd.
 
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It’s a lot easier to be a GM in the NFL when you’re getting solid QB play but aren’t having to pay $20M against the salary cap to do it. When you can instead spend that money on, for example, a Hall of Fame caliber OLB while still getting good play from your QB, it makes it so much easier to fill out a team.

Look at the NFL over the last decade plus.

When the Panthers went 15-1 and lost the Super Bowl, Cam Newton was on his rookie contract. They haven’t been back since.

When the Seahawks went to back to back Super Bowls, Russell Wilson was on his rookie contract. They haven’t been back since.

The Ravens won their last Super Bowl with Flacco on his rookie contract. He signed that huge extension and they’ve been to the playoffs once since.

After Aaron Rodgers’ first year as a starter, he signed a relatively modest extension at around $10M a year. The Packers won a Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since he signed his next extension at over $20M per year despite arguably playing better than any QB ever has during that time.

Similarly, coming off a severe shoulder injury, Drew Brees signed a relatively modest contract with the Saints at about $10M per year. They won their Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since signing his first big extension despite breaking pretty much every record a QB can break over that time.

The Steelers won two Super Bowls when Rothlisberger was on his rookie contract and haven’t won since.

The Patriots are the exception that proves the rule, and have been notoriously ruthless with their salary cap, often cutting beloved veterans, while Tom Brady has repeatedly extended for less than market value. (I’m convinced there’s a partial ownership deal under the table.)

Point I’m making is that Trubisky looks like he can be that guy. So the Bears need to make hay these next three or four years before he gets his first big contract.
 
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It’s a lot easier to be a GM in the NFL when you’re getting solid QB play but aren’t having to pay $20M against the salary cap to do it. When you can instead spend that money on, for example, a Hall of Fame caliber OLB while still getting good play from your QB, it makes it so much easier to fill out a team.

Look at the NFL over the last decade plus.

When the Panthers went 15-1 and lost the Super Bowl, Cam Newton was on his rookie contract. They haven’t been back since.

When the Seahawks went to back to back Super Bowls, Russell Wilson was on his rookie contract. They haven’t been back since.

The Ravens won their last Super Bowl with Flacco on his rookie contract. He signed that huge extension and they’ve been to the playoffs once since.

After Aaron Rodgers’ first year as a starter, he signed a relatively modest extension at around $10M a year. The Packers won a Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since he signed his next extension at over $20M per year despite arguably playing better than any QB ever has during that time.

Similarly, coming off a severe shoulder injury, Drew Brees signed a relatively modest contract with the Saints at about $10M per year. They won their Super Bowl. They haven’t been back since signing his first big extension despite breaking pretty much every record a QB can break over that time.

The Steelers won two Super Bowls when Rothlisberger was on his rookie contract and haven’t won since.

The Patriots are the exception that proves the rule, and have been notoriously ruthless with their salary cap, often cutting beloved veterans, while Tom Brady has repeatedly extended for less than market value. (I’m convinced there’s a partial ownership deal under the table.)

Point I’m making is that Trubisky looks like he can be that guy. So the Bears need to make hay these next three or four years before he gets his first big contract.

Good stuff.

Hopefully we can win the next 2 and then talk about seeding scenarios. I do not want to play the Saints in the Superdome.
 
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make no mistake...the Bears have staying power.

The Bears have zero starters aged 30+ and only a handful of players on the roster that are 30 or older. With Cousins and Stafford at age 30 and Rodgers at age 34 (and assuming Green Bay doesn't strike gold three straight times at QB), the Bears are set up to have a long run of success with how much youth they have on their roster.
 
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Trusbisky on the injury report for a right shoulder injury. Haven't seen anything on the severity yet. Hopefully just a little soreness. Some rumblings that it happened from the late hit by Harrison Smith.
 
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ILL in IA

Iowa City
Not to get too far ahead here, but I am excited to see how we look in a few weeks against LA. Now that the dust has settled after the Vikings game, I find myself seeing where we stack up for playoff matchups. LA and the Saints are tier 1 right now. Bears are right behind them and almost alone in that regard. I think the Bears are clearly better than everyone else in the playoff hunt. Vikings, Panthers, and whatever garbage team come out of the NFC East at this point.
 
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It’s going to be interesting because the Rams and Saints are built quite similarly. They both have unbelievable top three in the league offenses and bottom third of the league defenses. The Saints’ offense is especially ridiculous. They score on 62.5% of their drives. That’s just stupid good. But both of those teams give up a ton of yards and points.

The Bears have a top three in the league defense. AND they have a respectable top third in the league offense.

Conventional NFL wisdom of the past 60+ years would tell you the Bears are thus better suited for a playoff run. That the Bears offense should be good enough to score points against bad defenses and their defense should come up with just enough stops against elite defenses to win games.

I’m just not sure that’s the way the NFL works anymore.

What I do know is that if there’s a defensive coordinator in the league that can figure out how to navigate the hyper high scoring environment the league is in right now, it’s the guy the Bears have.
 
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Illwinsagain

Cary, IL
Not to get too far ahead here, but I am excited to see how we look in a few weeks against LA. Now that the dust has settled after the Vikings game, I find myself seeing where we stack up for playoff matchups. LA and the Saints are tier 1 right now. Bears are right behind them and almost alone in that regard. I think the Bears are clearly better than everyone else in the playoff hunt. Vikings, Panthers, and whatever garbage team come out of the NFC East at this point.
My concern is the 4th quarter. It appears that the defense backs off a little, and teams move the ball and score. Against LA/NO, that could be a lot of scoring. I think I saw a stat that the Bears give up more points in the 4th, than the other 3 quarters combined.
 
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