Big Ten All-Conference Awards

#101      
Underwood is probably second in the voting. We were ranked 10-11 in the preseason top 25 and are now 16. Wisconsin didn’t receive a single vote preseason and finished 12th. That’s why. Hard to argue imo.
I agree the biggest lock of all the awards
 
#104      
Had we won the B1G outright, BU would have gotten COTY. Oh well.

I bet BU doesn’t give a flyin fart whether or not he got the award.

He’s got his eyes on other prizes.

Also, I said it before the Nebby loss (to my step father) that Wisconsin had 3 games left and they’d lose all 3 by 5 or less. Their luck would officially be gone.

Nebby ✅
First BTT game
First MM game
 
#106      
The thing about COY is it's more analogous in practice to a "most improved player" award than a POY award. Championships and banners are the top prize for coaches, and BU has already nabbed one of those. I guarantee BU would take a BTT championship or a Final Four banner over COY, so hopefully our guys can get him both of those (I'd settle for just the FF though).
 
#107      

Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
Happy to see Frazier in 2nd team and Plummer in 3rd team. Only thing I would argue is Trent definitely deserves DPOY - I think he was very close last year as well.
And Brad's proud record to have a kid in all-freshmen team ends (Trent, Ayo, Kofi, Belo), though I would not complain that.
 
#108      
Not sure how we ended up with 17 guys on 3 teams but... whatever. Congrats to Alfonso!
This was due to ties in the coaches vote. In the media vote Davidson was 3rd team and Geo Baker/Gabe Brown were honorable mentions.
 
#110      
How does BU not get coach of the year..loses Ayo...Miller transfers...replaces asst coaching staff...pre season All American point guard concussed most of the year..All-American center concussed for a few games...whole team had covid.... the only obstacles Gard had this year was getting slapped!
You forgot the obstacle of talent rated to finish 10th. Yeh, Brad deserves it, but Gard probably does, too.
 
#111      
100% agree. The reason they've ended up at the top of the B1G is not primarily due to Gard's tremendous leadership and coaching, but because a guy who averaged 7ppg suddenly became a 20ppg force and eventual POY. Nobody saw that coming and that's why they were picked 10th. I have some issues with 'double-dipping', so to speak, and admitting they had the best player in the conference while also crediting Gard with an outcome that is surprising only because everybody was unable to see that they would have the POY on their team.
If we were Wisky fans, we'd be pointing to that as exhibit A of great player development, i.e. coaching
 
#112      
Happy to see Frazier in 2nd team and Plummer in 3rd team. Only thing I would argue is Trent definitely deserves DPOY - I think he was very close last year as well.
And Brad's proud record to have a kid in all-freshmen team ends (Trent, Ayo, Kofi, Belo), though I would not complain that.

This was a tough year to get Freshman of the Year. Good players, but not great players in the Freshman category.
 
#114      
The numbers do ‘add up!’
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#115      
If we were Wisky fans, we'd be pointing to that as exhibit A of great player development, i.e. coaching
You’re right, but that also doesn’t mean you’re right, if that makes sense. We would absolutely point to great player development but that doesn’t mean it would be correct to attribute a player’s improvements to the coach. It ultimately starts and ends with the player.
 
#116      
Exactly. Big difference between the two. Whatever Kofi did, he did with 600 pounds or more hanging on him. Getting shoved. Arms slapped. Elbows in the back and ribs.
Also we game planned to play help defense on Davis and they game planned on Kofi to double and triple team him other than Wisconsin and how’d that work out for them?
 
#117      
If you judge expectations from where WI and ILL were on May 1 of last year, I am guessing Wi would have been higher ranked than ILL. But BU got three new assistants that are comparable to those that got hired away. He re-recruited Kofi and got both Frazier and DMW to come back. If the COY was based upon the entire body of work that started when we exited the tourney last year to date, it would be pretty tough to argue against BU.
But one thing BU has going for him is JW in the background. Our coaching staff now has the support it has always needed to be successful.
 
#118      
According to KenPom player of the year rating (takes into effect player efficiency, team quality, and player importance to team), here are the 5 all-B1G players:

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I don't personally have an issue with any of the 5, or necessarily the order. 4 of them were on the overall top 10 as well, so that says how high level the competition in the B1G was all year round.
Hope 4 of those guys go pro after the season
 
#119      
This year they should have done a super senior team
I rather have BU as our coach than last year’s coach of the year
 
#123      

JSpence

Evansville, IN
At least he gave a shout out to Kofi. Was asked to pick POY besides himself and he picked Kofi.
Sounds like he respects Kofi.
That might be generous. He may have simply been picking the star that was least comparable to himself.
 
#124      

JSpence

Evansville, IN
Is Hunter a good defender? Guess I didn't notice because Purdue as a team hasn't been very good defensively.
Yes. He is the only weapon they have on that end, aside from guys that can reach high.
 
#125      
It's ridiculous that DaMonte Williams isn't on there. It's also ridiculous that Kofi isn't POY given his numbers. And there should be a category for best flash and dash because that would be Curbelo.
Last point of ridiculous: the very scant coverage of the Illinois win for the share of the Big10 championship on the BIG 10 network!
And Andy Katz seems to have fallen out of love with Illinois lately. He named everybody as his picks for conference awards BUT any Illinois player in the conversation with Revsine.