Bowl Games & CFB Playoff

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Dec 4, 2022

Here are the College Football Playoff match-ups:

-Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl: #1 Georgia vs. #4 Ohio State
-Vrbo Fiesta Bowl: #2 Michigan vs. #3 TCU

Alabama is at #5 and Tennessee is at #6.

With Ohio State and Michigan in the CFP Playoff, I'd think it's Penn State vs. Utah in the Rose Bowl.

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Dec 4, 2022

Here are the remaining New Year's Six Bowl games:

-Capital One Orange Bowl: #6 Tennessee vs. #7 Clemson
-Allstate Sugar Bowl: #5 Alabama vs. #9 Kansas State
-Goodyear Cotton Bowl Classic: #16 Tulane vs. #10 USC
-Rose Bowl Game: #8 Utah vs. 11 Penn State

OnlyOrange · Dec 4, 2022

IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
Here are the College Football Playoff match-ups:

-Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl: #1 Georgia vs. #4 Ohio State
-Vrbo Fiesta Bowl: #2 Michigan vs. #3 TCU

Alabama is at #5 and Tennessee is at #6.

With Ohio State and Michigan in the CFP Playoff, I'd think it's Penn State vs. Utah in the Rose Bowl.

I'm in the minority that wanted a rematch of UM-OSU. Assume UM will smoke TCU (in the second half, of course).

Mr. Tibbs · Dec 4, 2022

OnlyOrange said:
I'm in the minority that wanted a rematch of UM-OSU. Assume UM will smoke TCU (in the second half, of course).

I wanted a rematch and a guarantee of a B1G team in the finals

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Dec 4, 2022

If the 12-team playoff had been in place, these would have been the matchups:

#1 Georgia
#2 Michigan
#3 Clemson
#4 Utah

#5 TCU vs #12 Tulane
#6 Ohio State vs. #11 Penn State
#7 Alabama vs. #10 USC
#8 Tennessee vs. #9 Kansas State

Noblesville Illini · Dec 4, 2022

IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
If the 12-team playoff had been in place, these would have been the matchups:

#1 Georgia
#2 Michigan
#3 Clemson
#4 Utah

#5 TCU vs #12 Tulane
#6 Ohio State vs. #11 Penn State
#7 Alabama vs. #10 USC
#8 Tennessee vs. #9 Kansas State

Just counting this up.....gonna take 4 weeks to resolve a 12 team playoff. So, they get one bye week after the conf. championships, otherwise they alter the schedule.

Mr. Tibbs · Dec 4, 2022

Noblesville Illini said:
Just counting this up.....gonna take 4 weeks to resolve a 12 team playoff. So, they get one bye week after the conf. championships, otherwise they alter the schedule.

yea, it will go well into January

IlliniFaninHoosierLand · Dec 4, 2022

Mr. Tibbs said:
yea, it will go well into January

Exactly. It'd be like this upcoming week where the only FBS game is the Army/Navy game.

Illini92and96 · Dec 4, 2022

Noblesville Illini said:
Just counting this up.....gonna take 4 weeks to resolve a 12 team playoff. So, they get one bye week after the conf. championships, otherwise they alter the schedule.

What purpose does the conference championship serve with a 12 team playoff, especially if conferences do away with divisions as rumoured? Seems like they would need that week for either a rest week somewhere between the end of season and final game or just use that week to recuse how long the playoffs extend the season. They make money now, but assume that would be replace with more $ from the playoffs.

Bucktown · Dec 4, 2022

Illini92and96 said:
What purpose does the conference championship serve with a 12 team playoff, especially if conferences do away with divisions as rumoured? Seems like they would need that week for either a rest week somewhere between the end of season and final game or just use that week to recuse how long the playoffs extend the season. They make money now, but assume that would be replace with more $ from the playoffs.

Conference champions get a bye, and I think a home game.

Mr. Tibbs · Dec 4, 2022

pretty sure the home games are only for the higher rated seeds in round one .
rounds 2 & 3 & finals are all going to be indoors or in warm weather arenas

Illini2010-11 · Dec 5, 2022

Mr. Tibbs said:
pretty sure the home games are only for the higher rated seeds in round one .
rounds 2 & 3 & finals are all going to be indoors or in warm weather arenas

That is correct. The four highest ranked conference champions get byes into the quarterfinal round, which is held at a bowl game.

What is strange to me is the first round home games. It feels like that could be a gold mine of revenue for the home team. For example, if the new CFP format took place now, Alabama and Tennessee both would host a playoff game, despite not winning conference championship.

Are these schools mandated to share revenue associated to those games? If not, then from a financial perspective, it could be argued that there is more of an incentive to finish ranked 5-8.

Illini92and96 · Dec 5, 2022

Bucktown said:
Conference champions get a bye, and I think a home game.

Seems like they could give the "championship" for bye purposes based on record, head-to-head, points, etc, even with multiple divisions. The biggest argument against would be disparity in divisional schedules. It would all be moot if divisions are eliminated, at which point it is more like the English Premier League.

wma500 · Dec 5, 2022

Since this whole thing is designed by and run by the conferences themselves, it's no surprise it's got a heavy tilt towards conference championships. Not all conferences are created equal, obviously, and to run a 12 team bracket you need 4 teams getting a bye in round one, so the agreed to put the four highest conference champs in those slots.

While that will satisfy the "you won your conference, that should mean something crowd", that has ripple effects with seeds 5-12, and potentially creates some odd bracket match ups.

First round games will be played on campus, on or around like Dec 20th.
Quarter final and semi final games will utilize the current "New Years 6" bowls. Not sure we know the dates or timing on that yet.
Final game will be around Jan 20th.

champaignchris · Dec 5, 2022

IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
If the 12-team playoff had been in place, these would have been the matchups:

#1 Georgia
#2 Michigan
#3 Clemson
#4 Utah

#5 TCU vs #12 Tulane
#6 Ohio State vs. #11 Penn State
#7 Alabama vs. #10 USC
#8 Tennessee vs. #9 Kansas State

Assuming Hooker was healthy, I’d say the most likely first round upset would be Tulane over TCU. Tulane beat K State on the road; the same K State team TCU just lost to at a neutral site.

After that, you’d almost be sure to end up with 3 SEC teams in the final four with this bracket. I’d have to guess that if the committee were seeding for 12 teams this year, they’d adjust things so that all 3 Big 10 teams aren’t in the same “region,” probably by flipping TCU’s and OSU’s ranking.

AdDoBe · Dec 5, 2022

champaignchris said:
Assuming Hooker was healthy, I’d say the most likely first round upset would be Tulane over TCU. Tulane beat K State on the road; the same K State team TCU just lost to at a neutral site.

After that, you’d almost be sure to end up with 3 SEC teams in the final four with this bracket. I’d have to guess that if the committee were seeding for 12 teams this year, they’d adjust things so that all 3 Big 10 teams aren’t in the same “region,” probably by flipping TCU’s and OSU’s ranking.

I think you're mis-interpreting the second round matchups (or I am...). 6/11 winner would play 3 so all the B1G teams aren't in the same "region." Similarly, 8/9 winner would play 1 so 3 SEC teams can't make the final four of this bracket.

You do bring up an interesting point, though, about if the committee will tweak rankings to avoid an "unbalanced" bracket. Another interesting scenario would be if TCU/KSU were ranked 6/11 for example. So KSU's "reward" for beating TCU in the B12 championship game would be to play them again on the road... There would have to be some sort of "protection" against that, no?

champaignchris · Dec 5, 2022

AdDoBe said:
I think you're mis-interpreting the second round matchups (or I am...). 6/11 winner would play 3 so all the B1G teams aren't in the same "region." Similarly, 8/9 winner would play 1 so 3 SEC teams can't make the final four of this bracket.

You do bring up an interesting point, though, about if the committee will tweak rankings to avoid an "unbalanced" bracket. Another interesting scenario would be if TCU/KSU were ranked 6/11 for example. So KSU's "reward" for beating TCU in the B12 championship game would be to play them again on the road... There would have to be some sort of "protection" against that, no?

No. You’re right and I’m wrong. I had the quarter finals seeds flipped in my head.

Birdus · Dec 7, 2022

Mr. Tibbs said:
I wanted a rematch and a guarantee of a B1G team in the finals

TCU could win that game. I think O. State and Georgia will be closer than people think. Sorry to say, I do have SCUM wriggling in. Of course, I have them losing in the finals soooo, thats a good thing

Birdus · Dec 7, 2022

What's the odds on LSU-PURDUE passing for over 1000 yards?

EyeoftheIllini · Dec 7, 2022

Not a great place to pose this question, but since it is bowl related I’ll put it here. Anyone know of a website where you can find list of what players are opting out of their bowls?

EyeoftheIllini · Dec 14, 2022

EyeoftheIllini said:
Not a great place to pose this question, but since it is bowl related I’ll put it here. Anyone know of a website where you can find list of what players are opting out of their bowls?

Found one if anyone interested. Hopefully it helps me with the Bowl Mania confidence pool I’m in with some friends. Need something to try and separate 42 games.

Key players that will opt-out of 2022-23 bowl games

We’ll keep an updated list of those that have chosen not to play in their team’s scheduled bowl game at the end of the 2022 season.

dknation.draftkings.com

MoCoMdIllini · Dec 14, 2022

EyeoftheIllini said:
Found one if anyone interested. Hopefully it helps me with the Bowl Mania confidence pool I’m in with some friends. Need something to try and separate 42 games.

Key players that will opt-out of 2022-23 bowl games

We’ll keep an updated list of those that have chosen not to play in their team’s scheduled bowl game at the end of the 2022 season.

dknation.draftkings.com

This is a great list. Also it reminded me that Arkansas had a guy on the roster named Bumper Pool.

EyeoftheIllini · Dec 16, 2022

Quite a first bowl game. Wasn’t the best played game, but an exciting game and finish. Thankfully UAB won as I had 39 points on them in my confidence pool.

Mr. Tibbs · Dec 16, 2022

EyeoftheIllini said:
Quite a first bowl game. Wasn’t the best played game, but an exciting game and finish. Thankfully UAB won as I had 39 points on them in my confidence pool.

UAB beats Miami Ohio , coached by Chuck Martin, the one time OC at ND before that gig. He was often mentioned by people for our job . Glad we didnt waste our time with him .

He may be a decent coach, by his record at DII Grand Valley St, but you wouldnt know it by his record at Miami. Admittedly, not an easy place to win these days.

Dan · Dec 17, 2022

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