CFB Coaching Carousel 2015-16

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Hoppy2105

Little Rock, Arkansas

Interesting...maybe our run game will improve against Penn State?
 
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ILLINIShox24

Orange Krush '04 & '05
Might be a smooth transition for Banks, having recruited many players on PSU and his familiarity with the campus.
 
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God, your posts are totally triggering me. The mess??? You mean the mess CUBIT WAS A CONTRIBUTOR TO? And what are you describing as a mess? There were no sanctions from Beckman's actions, and no player transfer/loss. Just bad press. What is the mess you're referring to, and how is Cubit NOT a direct contributor?? The roster for this season was significantly better than a 5-7 team that lost 39-0 to Penn State, 24-14 to Northwestern (and it wasn't that close) and 38-27 to Minnesota.

Cubit's trended straight downward in CU since he lost Nate under center. We got the worst possible scenario in hiring a bad coach who is nowhere near deserving of the head coaching position, and the national media should be calling us out on that. The two year contract is just laughable when we could've had a 4 year with really weak buyout terms (in essence, a 2 year, but without making us a national laughingstock).

I'm being realistic when I say there were attainable candidates, and the entire situation was self-imposed. Firing MT late with no plans in place -- our fault. Keeping Cubit on a sh****, embarrassing contract -- our fault. Not even TESTING THE WATERS in the carousel -- our own stupid fault. The entire process was inexcusable, and the end result was equally inexcusable.


You can be as mad at the situation you want, but it was the situation our team was in. The timing on the MT firing was terrible for us in terms of hiring a new coach. With no AD there was no way we were going to get a quality coach from outside the program. Keeping Cubit was the right choice. He is a solid coach with a great character. The players never quit on him, and many spoke out positively about retaining him. Stability has its value.
 
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Hoppy2105

Little Rock, Arkansas
You can be as mad at the situation you want, but it was the situation our team was in. The timing on the MT firing was terrible for us in terms of hiring a new coach. With no AD there was no way we were going to get a quality coach from outside the program. Keeping Cubit was the right choice. He is a solid coach with a great character. The players never quit on him, and many spoke out positively about retaining him. Stability has its value.

I disagree. Our interim AD could have hired Babers with a normal contract even without a permanent AD in place. And there are plenty of head coaches who have taken jobs without knowing who their boss was. There have been several examples of this since this whole fiasco started so that isn't an excuse.

If a HC succeeds, it won't matter who the AD is, their job will be safe. (barring no violations of any sort)

Cubit was not the right choice, he was the easiest/most convenient to cover your a## choice.
 
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I disagree. Our interim AD could have hired Babers with a normal contract even without a permanent AD in place. And there are plenty of head coaches who have taken jobs without knowing who their boss was. There have been several examples of this since this whole fiasco started so that isn't an excuse.

If a HC succeeds, it won't matter who the AD is, their job will be safe. (barring no violations of any sort)

Cubit was not the right choice, he was the easiest/most convenient to cover your a## choice.

+1
 
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ILLINIShox24

Orange Krush '04 & '05
Bucs are hiring Southern Miss coach Todd Monken as their new offensive coordinator. Was WRs coach with Jaguars when Koetter coached there.

Interesting. Koetter is calling his own plays, so essentially get to be a WR coach.
 
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Bucs are hiring Southern Miss coach Todd Monken as their new offensive coordinator. Was WRs coach with Jaguars when Koetter coached there.

Interesting. Koetter is calling his own plays, so essentially get to be a WR coach.

You have to do what is best for your career but this is terrible timing for SMiss being so close to signing day.
 
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mhuml32

Cincinnati, OH
Bucs are hiring Southern Miss coach Todd Monken as their new offensive coordinator. Was WRs coach with Jaguars when Koetter coached there.

Interesting. Koetter is calling his own plays, so essentially get to be a WR coach.

Interesting decision by Monken, he just seemed to have turned around Southern Miss....
 
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FanUND

The Bend: South Bend, Indiana
I wanted to throw out the names of a couple of current CFB head coaches who are heading up programs that are somewhat lesser than coaches of their status could be taking on, along with one NFL assistant. These wouldn't necessarily be great fits for Illinois, but anyway:

Terry Bowden, Akron, age 59 -- Pro: You have to be intrigued about a coach that takes the Zips into Michigan Stadium and darn near pulls off the upset. Took Auburn to the pinnacle years ago. From a premier coaching family. Still relatively young and has lots of HC experience for his age. Con: Some past baggage re: Auburn.

Frank Solich, Ohio, age 71: Seventy is the new 60! Obviously his age makes him an unlikely candidate, but it surprises me that he never moved back up into the "big-time" in all the post-Huskers years. In 2011, he coached OU to their first 10-win season in more than 40 years.

Tom Clements, age 62: Notre Dame alums were lobbying hard to get TC offered their head-coaching job circa 2010, when Kelly got the nod. There seems to be a lot of belief out there that he could be highly successfull as a college HC, but if he has interest, which program is willing to take a chance? Recruiting skills?

Other guys are out there in their 50s and early 60s who are no longer in coaching, like Gerry DiNardo, but I think in most cases by far, their lack of recent success will really limit their opportunities. On the other hand, New Mexico's gamble on Bob Davie seems to have paid off (had been out of coaching since about 2002) -- and by most measures, he was a failure as ND's head coach.
 
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Interesting decision by Monken, he just seemed to have turned around Southern Miss....

Bad timing for Southern Miss for sure- It would be interesting to see what Monken's longer term goals are. Maybe he didn't like recruiting. IDK.
I thought it was odd that his name didn't come up for any of the larger school openings this year. One more good year at Southern Miss would likely have made him a hot coaching candidate next year. But I suppose if he thinks the Bucs are ready to get things really turned around, being at the forefront of that would make him a hot coaching candidate just about everywhere.
 
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Ferentz' new contract is the first one I've ever seen that explicitly uses season win totals as triggering events for compensation/buyout calculations.

That's potentially a pretty big paradigm shift. Obviously this is in the context of a supremely stable coach and program and a contract that is ludicrously favorable to Ferentz whether he ever wins another game or not, but you can easily envision a slippery slope towards contracts for rebuilding programs that are glorified pay-per-win arrangements (tons and tons of posters here have been calling for that at Illinois) and the huge potential for adverse incentives that would create.
 
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Just know, fellow posters, that if the Lovie thing hadn't happened and we were playing out the string with Cubit this year, my Jeff Monken advocacy would be bordering on maniacal right now.
 
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Just think about how hot of a target Garrick McGee would be if he would have stayed at Louisville running the offense with Lamar Jackson. What a special player he is.

Gotta like that we have McGee with us.
 
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LannyBudd

Chicago, IL
Just know, fellow posters, that if the Lovie thing hadn't happened and we were playing out the string with Cubit this year, my Jeff Monken advocacy would be bordering on maniacal right now.

Jeff Monken was my highschool football coach!
 
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LannyBudd

Chicago, IL
Interesting! And? Your thoughts?

The Jeff Monken I knew 20 years ago and the Jeff Monken of today are totally different coaches. Honestly, everyone was a little upset that he only stuck around for one season good old Morton. I honestly have no opinion about him.

Wow, I just read that back to myself..."20 years ago," I am old! :(

Anyways, I am committed to Lovie, I think he is the guy to lead us to respectability. Next year will most likely be a disaster like this year is turning out to be but I think in year 3 we get a minor bowl and in year 4 we somewhat compete for the BIG West. Year 5 we roll NW, Wisky, and the Boohawks.
 
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