CFB Playoff & Bowl Games

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Welcome to the College Football Playoff & Bowl Games thread. Big Ten bowls, CFB Playoff bracket & First Round dates/time are listed below, & feel free to discuss any other bowl game or CFB news.


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CFB Playoff First Round

Friday, December 20th

10 Indiana at 7 Notre Dame
7:00pm CT - ABC

Saturday, December 21st

11 SMU at 6 Penn State
11:00am CT - TNT

12 Clemson at 5 Texas
3:00pm CT - TNT

9 Tennessee at 8 Ohio State
7:00pm CT - ESPN


Big Ten Bowl Games

Thursday, December 26th

Rutgers vs Kansas State (Rate Bowl)
4:30pm CT - ESPN

Friday, December 27th

USC vs Texas A&M (Las Vegas Bowl)
9:30pm CT - ESPN

Saturday, December 28th

Nebraska vs Boston College (Pinstripe Bowl)
11:00am CT - ABC

Monday, December 30th

Iowa vs Missouri (Music City Bowl)
1:30pm CT - ESPN

Tuesday, December 31st

Michigan vs Alabama (ReliaQuest Bowl)
11:00am CT - ESPN

Washington vs Louisville (Sun Bowl)
1:00pm CT - CBS

Friday, January 3rd

Minnesota vs VT (Mayo Bowl)
6:30pm CT - ESPN
 
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OrangeBlue98
As soon as I saw the CFP bracket, I immediately think the committee found their "Illinois vs Loyola" moment and made sure Indiana and Notre Dame would play each other. The Tennessee-Ohio State is a very interesting matchup, but to be honest none of the other potential matchups would have been appointment viewing for me. If IU and ND would have played other teams, I didn't see any other really intriguing possible matchups except maybe Penn State and ND.
 
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OnlyOrange
Generally I think the committee did pretty well given what they had to work with, but I did a double take when I saw that Ohio State was #6 in the country but an 8 seed in the playoff. Seems odd.

I agree on the auto bids given the top 4 conference champions, but I don't like giving them an automatic bye as well.
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This playoff bracket is just a perfect microcosm of everything going on today. It is so clearly and obviously flawed, but it's what we are stuck with due to arbitrary, poorly thought-out guidelines. It's like a car crash I can't stop rubbernecking.
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The Galloping Ghost
OnlyOrange said:
Generally I think the committee did pretty well given what they had to work with, but I did a double take when I saw that Ohio State was #6 in the country but an 8 seed in the playoff. Seems odd.

I agree on the auto bids given the top 4 conference champions, but I don't like giving them an automatic bye as well.
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The committee did what it was supposed to do and followed the guidelines. The guidelines are clearly flawed. There’s no chance they won’t rework the seeding this off-season.
 
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Illini2010-11
OnlyOrange said:
Generally I think the committee did pretty well given what they had to work with, but I did a double take when I saw that Ohio State was #6 in the country but an 8 seed in the playoff. Seems odd.

I agree on the auto bids given the top 4 conference champions, but I don't like giving them an automatic bye as well.
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The purpose is to incentivize winning your conference. If we went solely off the CFP rankings, then the four teams that played in respective B1G and SEC Champ Game would be in bye position. At that point, what value is there to even having those championship games then? Those two games (B1G and SEC champ games) were given more importance in the sense that they were all playing for byes (all four teams were already safely in CFP field).

I gather they could make some slight changes to incentivize the conference champs to be in top 8 or 10 to qualify for automatic bye, but the key is not taking away incentive to winning conference.
 
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Illwinsagain
OnlyOrange said:
Generally I think the committee did pretty well given what they had to work with, but I did a double take when I saw that Ohio State was #6 in the country but an 8 seed in the playoff. Seems odd.

I agree on the auto bids given the top 4 conference champions, but I don't like giving them an automatic bye as well.
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I agree, it seems like Texas has the best road to the semi final, on paper, even with the extra game. Of course, that is why they play the games.
 
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Illini2010-11 said:
The purpose is to incentivize winning your conference. If we went solely off the CFP rankings, then the four teams that played in respective B1G and SEC Champ Game would be in bye position. At that point, what value is there to even having those championship games then? Those two games (B1G and SEC champ games) were given more importance in the sense that they were all playing for byes (all four teams were already safely in CFP field).

I gather they could make some slight changes to incentivize the conference champs to be in top 8 or 10 to qualify for automatic bye, but the key is not taking away incentive to winning conference.
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Actually, there is still incentive to win the conference. It means that you are conference champion. Think about it like the #1 ranked team in NCAA, do they not play in their conference tourney? They will still be a 1 seed either way, but still play and try to win. Not the end of the world if they lose early, just like a conference championship game in football, you still get another chance in the playoff.
 
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Illini2010-11
Illwinsagain said:
Actually, there is still incentive to win the conference. It means that you are conference champion. Think about it like the #1 ranked team in NCAA, do they not play in their conference tourney? They will still be a 1 seed either way, but still play and try to win. Not the end of the world if they lose early, just like a conference championship game in football, you still get another chance in the playoff.
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Naturally there is some incentive to hoisting a championship trophy, but not to the extent you are suggesting. Basketball and football are simply not that comparable. There is so much more injury risk involved in the game of football. If you got rid of the requirement to winning your conference to get into the bye position, there could be the argument for a team that is a near guarantee to be in the final top 4 CFP ranking to potentially rest some of their star players (the calculus changes). Do they want to win the conference title? Sure, but being in position to win a national championship is much more important. Heck, I could see the SEC and B1G potentially having incentive in doing away with their respective championship games (though still unlikely due to revenue it generates), as their teams are more likely to be in these enviable positions in CFP rankings. Remember the B1G Championship Game only started in 2011 when the conference expanded to the minimum 12 teams necessary to hold champ game.
 
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Illini2010-11
RabidDawgClassic said:
I mean, I’d the CFB equivalent of the NIT any less meaningful than a single non-playoff bowl game? 🤷🏼‍♂️
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It would be worse, IMO. We are already complaining about opt outs and transfers for a single game. Who would sign up for a 3 game stretch to be the 13th best team? I guarantee that schools like Alabama would opt, as would we (I suspect). This format would be even more watered down than the current bowl system, with more risk to players needing to play more, unnecessary games. We would still have same levels of opt outs as before, and it could make for a very weird champ game if even more opt out after first games.

The main benefit to bowls is the extra practice (and scenic bowl destination), not the chance to lift the unlucky 13th best team trophy. Obviously the post was made in jest, but any idea for a CFB equivalent NIT is simply insane.
 
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ILLI die hard
Saw where Marshall will not be playing the Independence Bowl against Army because 36 damn So called teammates entered the portal. How Sad college sports is becoming...
 
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BretMyBeachHouse
We've normalized opting out. First for guys going pro in bowl games. Now, non-pros. Coming soon, opt outs in weeks 10 and 11 for teams out of bowl contention. And so on.
 
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