Chicago Bears 2023-2024

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Thursday
Nov. 9
Carolina Panthers vs Chicago BearsSoldier Field, Chicago, IL8:15pm ETPrime Video

Mark your calendars. Could be a key game in the battle for draft picks.
Poor scheduling for Bears fans and team. Unfortunately someone will come away with a win. (Probably Carolina) If they weren't playing each other, both could probably come away with a comfortable loss.
I guess it could be a tie.
 
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Clownshow organization.

The Bears are the most ‘Chicago’ of all the pro sports franchises. Why? This is why.

Chicagoland loves baseball but there will always be split loyalties between two teams.

Chicagoland also loves its roundball and hockey but even as popular as these sports are they still are not as popular as football is.

And ‘Futbol’ is still is in its growing stage.

So that means... Da Bears are the Chicago franchise that the entire city most identifies with. And so, the fortunes of this privately-owned, poorly-run, family-run business operation has become critical to the feelings and emotions of millions of people in Illinois and around the Nation.

And so, when the Bears, uh... suck... the psyche of Chicago takes a big and major hit. Everyone feels hurt, wronged, and disoriented. And the fact that the Bears have sucked for so many years isn’t doing much to heal Chicago’s heart.

Do the Bears understand just how important they are to the health and welfare of Chicagoans? Not really. For if they did, they would have not have ‘sucked’ for so long. They would have done something about it a long time ago.

The answer? ‘Go I-L-L... I-N-I!’ Now THAT’s something we can all get behind.
 
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To have the worst season (by winning percentage) in Bears history, they have to win 0 or 1 games. That probably won’t happen.

To have the worst 2-year stretch in Bears history, they’d have to win 5 or fewer games. That’s completely on the table.

To have the worst 3-year stretch in Bears history, they’d have to win 4 or fewer games. Also completely on the table.
 
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GrayGhost77

Centennial, CO
That game they choked away yesterday was easily one of their best chances for a win all season. I don't see more than 2 wins on the schedule unless something very drastic were to happen,which is not at all likely
 
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To have the worst season (by winning percentage) in Bears history, they have to win 0 or 1 games. That probably won’t happen.

To have the worst 2-year stretch in Bears history, they’d have to win 5 or fewer games. That’s completely on the table.

To have the worst 3-year stretch in Bears history, they’d have to win 4 or fewer games. Also completely on the table.
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I thought there were 4 games on the schedule this year that we'd be favored to win. One of them we gave away yesterday.
 
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A friend of mine asked me this...what if you did have the top 2 picks...would it not make sense to draft the top 2 qbs...can you imagine the options from multiple teams trying to trade for them...
 
#383      
A friend of mine asked me this...what if you did have the top 2 picks...would it not make sense to draft the top 2 qbs...can you imagine the options from multiple teams trying to trade for them...
The picks are worth more than the QB's.
 
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A friend of mine asked me this...what if you did have the top 2 picks...would it not make sense to draft the top 2 qbs...can you imagine the options from multiple teams trying to trade for them...
Presumably you want one of the QBs you drafted, so only one on the market really. Don’t know why that player would bring more than the draft pick. I guess theoretically it might open up a trade with a team that doesn’t have a fairly high 1st rounder to trade, but rarely these days do you see blockbuster trades with multiple very good/great players involved so not sure the yield would be more than pre-draft trade. And then you control the picks you get back — picking who you want or trading down further or back up. Same thing if you’re not in market for a QB. Seems to me biggest haul in that case is trade #2 first. Then things would really get heated if you put the #1 pick on the market.
 
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Presumably you want one of the QBs you drafted, so only one on the market really. Don’t know why that player would bring more than the draft pick. I guess theoretically it might open up a trade with a team that doesn’t have a fairly high 1st rounder to trade, but rarely these days do you see blockbuster trades with multiple very good/great players involved so not sure the yield would be more than pre-draft trade. And then you control the picks you get back — picking who you want or trading down further or back up. Same thing if you’re not in market for a QB. Seems to me biggest haul in that case is trade #2 first. Then things would really get heated if you put the #1 pick on the market.
I was going with the thought that there was 2 must have qbs...and if I'm keeping one, many teams want the other...who are the most coveted players in every draft...the top 2 qbs....
 
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I was going with the thought that there was 2 maybe 4 great qbs in the draft...
Not sure how that would change anything. Biggest part of package(s) would likely be draft picks — some from that draft. If you trade predraft you control the picks to either make more trades or make the picks. Post draft trade you’d likely be taking guys they drafted with those picks, veteran players (salary cap could be an issue then) or only future year picks.
 
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The viewership for that game should exceed both the lunar landing and the last episode of MASH.

This brings up a question... Which will happen first. Americans make it back to walking on the Moon... or the Bears make the playoffs again?

And a second question: Can a hot USC QB save a broken franchise... or will that franchise ruin him?
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
the Bears issues can be traced back to the lack of leadership at the top.
Warren was brought in to basically handle all the crap with the lease of SF , the new real estate and stuff, Hes not really part of team operations
rather, Poles answers to a committee of McCaskeys , and they basically dont know anything

We are in NFL Purgatory until the family decides to sell, which may be never in the near future.
They continue to get rich just owning the team and have no incentive to change that.
As fans, all we can do is try to watch and then either laugh or cry.
 
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Poor scheduling for Bears fans and team. Unfortunately someone will come away with a win. (Probably Carolina) If they weren't playing each other, both could probably come away with a comfortable loss.
I guess it could be a tie.
Well, a tie would be an improvement for this year.
 
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the Bears issues can be traced back to the lack of leadership at the top.
Warren was brought in to basically handle all the crap with the lease of SF , the new real estate and stuff, Hes not really part of team operations
rather, Poles answers to a committee of McCaskeys , and they basically dont know anything

We are in NFL Purgatory until the family decides to sell, which may be never in the near future.
They continue to get rich just owning the team and have no incentive to change that.
As fans, all we can do is try to watch and then either laugh or cry.
Hey, maybe Reinsdorf can buy the team?

My operating theory on this is that selling the team is going to become a much more attractive thing to do after Virginia passes away, since doing so could potentially save her heirs something like $100 million in capital gains taxes. Ownership of the rest of the franchise is fractured to the point where their hand might be forced anyway once Virginia does not have a lock on voting rights of a bunch of other shareholders.

Maybe they all get together and keep the team in the family, but the inertia that's keeping folks from selling will go away once she finally passes. And she's only going to live to be, what, 115 or 120? That puts it in the realm of possibility that we might see a sale in our lifetimes.
 
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Illini2010-11

Sugar Grove
The Bears are the most ‘Chicago’ of all the pro sports franchises. Why? This is why.

Chicagoland loves baseball but there will always be split loyalties between two teams.

Chicagoland also loves its roundball and hockey but even as popular as these sports are they still are not as popular as football is.

And ‘Futbol’ is still is in its growing stage.

So that means... Da Bears are the Chicago franchise that the entire city most identifies with. And so, the fortunes of this privately-owned, poorly-run, family-run business operation has become critical to the feelings and emotions of millions of people in Illinois and around the Nation.

And so, when the Bears, uh... suck... the psyche of Chicago takes a big and major hit. Everyone feels hurt, wronged, and disoriented. And the fact that the Bears have sucked for so many years isn’t doing much to heal Chicago’s heart.

Do the Bears understand just how important they are to the health and welfare of Chicagoans? Not really. For if they did, they would have not have ‘sucked’ for so long. They would have done something about it a long time ago.

The answer? ‘Go I-L-L... I-N-I!’ Now THAT’s something we can all get behind.
I would love to agree with you here, but there are way too many Packer fans in the Chicagoland area. I am always amazed by the volume of Cubs fans who are also Packer fans. It is quite annoying to me.
 
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I would love to agree with you here, but there are way too many Packer fans in the Chicagoland area. I am always amazed by the volume of Cubs fans who are also Packer fans. It is quite annoying to me.

In modern times, there has always been a rather tight relationship between Northern Illinois and Wisconsin.

Many Chicago area families take frequent vacations in the various Wisconsin resort areas. And they make friends there or have family there.

Wisconsin people come down to Chicago to visit family members, to spend some time in a World Class city, and to watch the Brewers, Bucks, and Packers. Milwaukee was even flirting with the idea of getting an NFL franchise years ago but they found the franchise fee to be paid to existing NHL owners not within their budget.

There are colleges and universities in both the Chicago and Wisconsin areas (Milwaukee, Madison, and others) that bring tens of thousands of Illinois and Wisconsin young people together. Many Illinois-area college grads took jobs up North and may have got hooked up to the Green and Gold over the years.

Now, none of this by itself will answer for why there are so many Packer fans in Chicagoland. But the fact that the Bears and Packers are two long-standing legacy NFL franchises with an unmatched rivalry means that there is a lot of cross-pollinating going on for a very long time.

And some at-one-time-Bear fans that are on the North Side of Chicago and near the State line have switched loyalties from a troubled Bears franchise that hasn’t been good since in the 1940s.. to a nearby regional team that has seen some great success in the decades since then. Not to mention the mystique about the legendary coach and Hall-of-Fame players the Pack have had since the 1960s.

Because the Wisconsin franchise has had so much more success than the Bears in the last 60 years... it’s understandable why more Chicago people maybe took on a Packer interest than a Wisconsin person ever adopting The Bears. People just like getting attached to a winner.

But I get what you’re saying. Many White Sox fans find it annoying that there are so many Cub fans on the South Side areas of Chicagoland.

There are probably as many reasons why a person has adopted a loyalty to some team as there are sports fans. But rivalries really make sports hot and spicy.
 
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McCaskey and other Halas heirs own 80% of the Bears. The franchise has been in the hands of the Halas-McCaskey family since George Halas acquired the then-Decatur Staleys from A. E. Staley and moved the team to Chicago in 1921, renaming the team the Bears the following year. The Bears have been owned by the same family for longer than any other family has owned an NFL team The Bear Franchise is one year older that Mrs. McCaskey. There is something admirable about that, but it is annoying to think the Bears only compete for championships about every 25 years.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

southeast DuPage
Hey, maybe Reinsdorf can buy the team?

My operating theory on this is that selling the team is going to become a much more attractive thing to do after Virginia passes away, since doing so could potentially save her heirs something like $100 million in capital gains taxes. Ownership of the rest of the franchise is fractured to the point where their hand might be forced anyway once Virginia does not have a lock on voting rights of a bunch of other shareholders.

Maybe they all get together and keep the team in the family, but the inertia that's keeping folks from selling will go away once she finally passes. And she's only going to live to be, what, 115 or 120? That puts it in the realm of possibility that we might see a sale in our lifetimes.
I agree her passing may finally allow or even “force” as sale to some extent

but this much is certain . as long as that family calls that shots, nothing will change

much like it took Dollar Bill Wirtz to pass before Rocky could make things happen .
 
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The franchise has been in the hands of the Halas-McCaskey family since George Halas acquired the then-Decatur Staleys from A. E. Staley and moved the team to Chicago in 1921, renaming the team the Bears the following year.... The Bear Franchise is one year older that Mrs. McCaskey.

Think about how many things have radically changed since 1921... Just to name a few...

We had big clumsy rotary telephones that required an operator to complete long-distance calls. Now we have lightning fast little boxes in our hands that we can call the Moon by ourselves.

We had this new big media-thingy called AM Radio that brought the Nation together in a way it had never been brought together before.

Now, AM radio is mostly sports or political-Talk-pot-stirrers that agitate the Nation while everyone else is on the Internet... getting agitated there.

We began to see vacuum cleaners and washing machines in homes that were being made in great big American factories in American towns and cities.

Now, no one has time to vacuum or wash clothes because you have to work two or three jobs just to survive. And nobody likes to clean, anyway.

We began to have mass-produced autos that an average person could begin to afford.

Now we have mass-produced Pickups and SUVs that cost as much as house.

We began to have chain stores and department stores. Now the chain stores are disappearing and mall department stores are empty shells.

In short, many things have greatly changed since 1921. But one thing remains the same. The Bears. Still in Chicago. Still owned by the same family. Still trying to be respectable again. Still living off past glories. Still aggravating Bear fans every week.

And still looking for a real, franchise QB worthy of the Hall-of-Fame. And, a new Building to call Home.

But NOT a new Owner?!
 
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Think about how many things have radically changed since 1921... Just to name a few...

We had big clumsy rotary telephones that required an operator to complete long-distance calls. Now we have lightning fast little boxes in our hands that we can call the Moon by ourselves.

We had this new big media-thingy called AM Radio that brought the Nation together in a way it had never been brought together before.

Now, AM radio is mostly sports or political-Talk-pot-stirrers that agitate the Nation while everyone else is on the Internet... getting agitated there.

We began to see vacuum cleaners and washing machines in homes that were being made in great big American factories in American towns and cities.

Now, no one has time to vacuum or wash clothes because you have to work two or three jobs just to survive. And nobody likes to clean, anyway.

We began to have mass-produced autos that an average person could begin to afford.

Now we have mass-produced Pickups and SUVs that cost as much as house.

We began to have chain stores and department stores. Now the chain stores are disappearing and mall department stores are empty shells.

In short, many things have greatly changed since 1921. But one thing remains the same. The Bears. Still in Chicago. Still owned by the same family. Still trying to be respectable again. Still living off past glories. Still aggravating Bear fans every week.

And still looking for a real, franchise QB worthy of the Hall-of-Fame. And, a new Building to call Home.

But NOT a new Owner?!

Maybe they should move back to Wrigley.
 
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Hard Knocks would have been interesting if the Bears were the team chosen...lol
 
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