You have to be able to score TD's in the red zone more than 1 for 4 or 5. This has plagued them all year.
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Not a good team. Still way too many penalties and self inflicted wounds. Caleb is progressing and I think is trending towards a top half of the league qb at a minimum (which in the bears adjusted scale is amazing) but still not consistent enough. They got away with everything with some turnover luck the past 4 games but that luck went away today.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
Still waiting to see evidence that this is a well coached team.
It ain't about the coaching as I think the coaches are simply limited by the QB's poor play.
Caleb Williams vs. depleted Ravens D (ranked 30th overall in total D, 28th vs. pass, and 32nd (dead last) in points allowed): 25/38, 285 yds, 0 TD and 1 Int, rating of 77.2
Drake May vs. Cleveland D (ranked 1st overall in total D, 3rd vs. pass): 18/24, 283 Yds, 3 TDs and 1 Int, with rating of 135.8
Caleb is simply not very good (his inaccurate and his decision making is terrible, and these are two of the most important attributes a top QB should have)... It's looking more and more like Caleb is a bust, and that the Bears went 0 for 3 on first round QBs in the last decade.
Caleb Williams vs. depleted Ravens D (ranked 30th overall in total D, 28th vs. pass, and 32nd (dead last) in points allowed): 25/38, 285 yds, 0 TD and 1 Int, rating of 77.2
Drake May vs. Cleveland D (ranked 1st overall in total D, 3rd vs. pass): 18/24, 283 Yds, 3 TDs and 1 Int, with rating of 135.8
Caleb is simply not very good (his inaccurate and his decision making is terrible, and these are two of the most important attributes a top QB should have)... It's looking more and more like Caleb is a bust, and that the Bears went 0 for 3 on first round QBs in the last decade.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
I do remember whenever the Bears had double digit penalties with a bunch of them pre-snap the last couple years all I would hear is Eberfluss is a terrible head coach. Which he was. Now all I hear is what a great coach Johnson is, with the same output. This team was 4-3 last year as well.
The crazy thing is that the Bears could have traded out of 1 and landed another first round pick and possibly more and drafted at least 3 quarterbacks that are better than Williams. But, Poles had his eyes on a flawed Williams from day one and refused to hear any other options.
Poles needs to go. His draft picks stink across the board.
Poles needs to go. His draft picks stink across the board.
absolutely; I was never impressed with Caleb, and never understood the hype. I would traded down (with Wash, if they truly were interested in him as he and his dad seemed to think).
And don't get me started on Poles and his other idiotic draft decisions... I still can't believe that idiot passed on Jalen Carter. That guy would've anchored our DL for many years, and made everyone else's life on D so much easier. Instead we get a mid-level right tackle who was barely worth of 1st round consideration.
Poles drafted a punter in the 4th round. A punter?
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think Loveland at #10 overall is going to work out either.
They have WAY more issues than him. He'll be fine. Can he do things better? Absolutely. It's game 7 of a new system. Relax. Sitting in your couch, it's incredibly easy to pin issues in the QB. However, 1)Their receivers have to run better routes and come back to the ball, 2)The pre-snap penalties simply have to stop. You can have Joe Montana out there, but if 3rd and 2 continually turns into 3rd and 7......that's an issue. You become one dimensional, which leads to 3)they spent a lot of money to fix the interior of that line and while they run block quite well, they get absolutely mixed up when opponents bring pressure....then, on course, the LT position is still a hurdle.
Has he missed some throws and does he shoulder his portion of the blame, absolutely. Are there areas that need to be fixed before you even move to the QB.....yes.
Then, I mentioned in an earlier post, the defense has to get off the field on third down. You can't have your offense sitting on the sidelines while the opponent is putting 6,7,8 minute drives together. You just can't get into a rhythm or get any momentum. We've been living a charmed life with the bevvy of turnovers. That's simply not sustainable. When not getting those turnovers....it's a bad situation.
Hopefully Loveland can be a good tight end for us down the road, but Poles had Tyler Warren fall in his lap and passed.
Illiniaaron
- Geneseo, IL
Honest question, at what point will it be OK to not relax? In todays NFL you don’t get years and years to prove yourself as a starting QB. You get like two max. I think the rubber is hitting the road right now as to whether or not Johnson is going to want to keep going with Williams or not. I think this is going to sort itself out over the next four or five games. Also with the avalanche of injuries on defense, they are going to need to score at least 28 a game to win in the short term.
I don’t think Williams is the problem. Is he living up to #1 pick, generational QB prospect type hype? No, and he may never get there. But it’s certainly not fair to call him a bust at this point. And as I said with Justin fields, the question when evaluating Williams is “compared to what?”
Right now he’s 18th overall in QBR in a new system, which isn’t terrible. Had a bad pick that likely cost them the game on Sunday but overall takes pretty good care of the ball. I can see the reason for the hype with the arm strength, athleticism and some of the throws he pulls off, but he still lacks consistency. He gets a little more consistent I think he’s trending towards a top 10 qb in the league.
Would you hope for more with the # 1 pick, sure. But you can win with a top 10ish QB. Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, hell, Sam Darnold now. There just aren’t that many generational QBs ala Brady, Manning Maholmes etc which is what makes them generational by definition.
Williams has been fine, and I don’t think the Bears can do much better. There just aren’t many franchise QBs that become available for free agent signings and if there are, the price tag is astronomical. Do teams draft QBs lower than Williams and develop them into franchise QBs? Sure. But I don’t have any faith in the Bears as an organization to draft and develop a QB that would play better than Williams.
Right now he’s 18th overall in QBR in a new system, which isn’t terrible. Had a bad pick that likely cost them the game on Sunday but overall takes pretty good care of the ball. I can see the reason for the hype with the arm strength, athleticism and some of the throws he pulls off, but he still lacks consistency. He gets a little more consistent I think he’s trending towards a top 10 qb in the league.
Would you hope for more with the # 1 pick, sure. But you can win with a top 10ish QB. Matt Stafford, Jared Goff, hell, Sam Darnold now. There just aren’t that many generational QBs ala Brady, Manning Maholmes etc which is what makes them generational by definition.
Williams has been fine, and I don’t think the Bears can do much better. There just aren’t many franchise QBs that become available for free agent signings and if there are, the price tag is astronomical. Do teams draft QBs lower than Williams and develop them into franchise QBs? Sure. But I don’t have any faith in the Bears as an organization to draft and develop a QB that would play better than Williams.
New offense=new language.
You look at these young QB's who are winning, like Bo Nix... Well the Broncos are averaging 6 more yards a game and one more point a game than the Bears. The difference is their defense is allowing 8 fewer points a game.
Drake Maye? Pats offense 3 more yards a game & 2 more points, defense allowing 8 fewer points.
The QB, though not playing to his potential, is pretty far from the top of the list of problems with the 2025 Chicago Bears.
I really don't think Bo Nix, Drake Maye, or any other 2nd year QB would be doing a lot better under the circumstances.
absolutely; I was never impressed with Caleb, and never understood the hype. I would traded down (with Wash, if they truly were interested in him as he and his dad seemed to think).
And don't get me started on Poles and his other idiotic draft decisions... I still can't believe that idiot passed on Jalen Carter. That guy would've anchored our DL for many years, and made everyone else's life on D so much easier. Instead we get a mid-level right tackle who was barely worth of 1st round consideration.
The issue is that Caleb is not playing better than those QBs, and arguably is playing worse (or they're playing better than him). It may be marginally better, but better nonetheless, so it is a problem because of where he was draft compared to them. In a way, you're proving my point (and others like me). The Bears could've traded back from 1st overall, got tons of extra picks, and still ended up with a QB that is just as good as Caleb.
Watching the Packers-Steelers last night, two great QB's, but a big diff between them and Caleb is that those guys almost always had an outlet that was wide open. Could a big part of the problem be play calling?
No Caleb has guys he can outlet to but he refuses to look there way
I will watch this closer, but I didn't see many outlet guys.
If they are there, then that's the solution - to get Caleb to hit them.
On the pick from out of our own endzone, the RB was coming wide open in the right flat. Every pass play has an outlet, but with a QB like Williams, who is always looking for big plays, it is really hard to get them to change their perception and hit the checkdown when the rest of the play is unclear.
Battle89
- Cary-Grove, the better Trojan team
Now, when he gets it reeled in (that is actually an IF), this will be a good thing.
He needs to know when to make a big play and when it is okay to just check it down.
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