We can agree to disagree. It seems like you are using WAR to exclude Sosa from the HOF, and justify Walker. If you look at Walker's career, he had a pretty good 13 year stretch but there are several years in there that it would be a major stretch to call "elite." He had some pretty average seasons in there. And I disagree also that I think a lot of guys who were dominant for a decade or so get in, it seems like a common subjective measurement that the HOF voters use. Look at Sandberg-he was not elite for more than a decade. My point is that if you are letting Santo or Mazerowski in, just to pick a couple, you can't keep Sosa out. And if he is being excluded for steroids, (which he is), we can all wink and nod that he was probably using, and he had a clownish appearance before Congress, but I don't think there is the smoking gun evidence for him like there is for Bonds, Clemmens, or Palmeiro.