I was just going to ask if any of the schools mentioned herein might poach Hoiberg. Or does he have to produce another year at Nebraska like this one, or better? Or does he have a connection to Nebraska? And regarding Poe's Law statement above, has any Big Ten head coach made a direct move to another Big Ten school head coaching job? By direct, I mean there were no years off (e.g. either coaching at another non-B1G school or maybe being an announcer for a year or two or more) and then going to another B1G school.
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IU still thinks that they can lure Scott Drew or Tommy Lloyd ...
Their fanbase is absolutely delusional ... IU is not that good of a job ...
And hate to break it to every IU fan but when the #1 kid in the state and top 5 kid in the nation is an Adidas kid and you STILL can't get him and they send him to Kansas instead ... And the year before that ... The top kid in state goes to Michigan State ?? It's not like he went to Duke or UK ... Should tell you exactly where you sit in the power rankings ...
And that is probably why all these top coaches have no interest in your program ...
Yeah pretty tough. (Great Game!!)Dad was the coach. They played Fairberry Prairie-City in the title game. Dug the look of the retro flattops and all black shoes they went with too. Lol.
There was another kid on that team that really made ‘em go. His name was like: Brede or Brade or something. Scored about 40 against Fairberry-PC in the title game…most of those were on offensive rebounds. I think he went to Arkansas on a baseball scholarship?
I only found 4 coaches that have had more than one stop in the big ten as a head coach.
Ozzie Cowles
Dana Evans
Ralph Jones
Maurice Kent
Kent and Evan’s both had a gap between jobs. Ralph Jones went from Purdue to Illinois for the 1912-1913 season… but it wasn’t technically the big ten yet (Western Conference).
The only example I could find in the Big Ten was Ozzie Cowles going from Michigan (1947-1948) to Minnesota (1948-1949).
Thanks for this information. Interesting. So, apparently, it is rare and hasn't happened in what might be called the "modern era". But with so many rules going out the window in the last few years (and not just in basketball) it might happen sometime in the near future.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
I really think Louisville is a gem of a job going forward. Being the biggest ticket in town of a pretty large city and metropolitan area playing in arguably the best purely college basketball arena in the country, that's a pretty nice platform to build on. It's an NIL-friendly situation considering their big and deep-pocketed fanbase.
And right now seems like a particularly senseless time given that the Celtics are a top-tier title contender. Maybe that means Stevens' work there is done, but the job he's done as a GM has been impressive.
I've heard old fables about his interest in the Illinois job back in the day, which have come to seem more like half-true anti-Mike Thomas propaganda, but even those stories indicated that he didn't really have a taste for apex recruiting battles, and that's a really bad fit for IU.
I'm only like 50% confident in it (hard to project anything in these anarchic days), but my working hypothesis is that being a "basketball school" is going to be a really big advantage in the age of NIL.
Schools where football is priority #1, 2 and 3 are always going to have that extra marginal dollar dedicated to that extra marginal football recruit. Illinois is not like that. Indiana is not like that. Louisville, Gonzaga, etc.
The sweet spot seems to me like a school with a massive engaged online fanbase obsessed with recruiting and willing to allow football to fight at a disadvantage in order to get that big man in the portal who would fill out the roster.
Who does that sound like?
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
will wade to Depaul would make a lot of sense. could see it as a stepping stone for him back to high major HC consideration. he’s killing it at McNeese St
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Yeah, it feels like he sneaks into the window of a reputation damaged badly enough that he can't do better than DePaul but not so badly damaged that he's just totally unemployable. The Pearl-Sampson Quadrant if you will.
That said, if Beard leaves, you know Ole Miss is always shopping in the "scandal-ridden rogue" aisle.
And ironically, Wade got his start as a student manager at Clemson under Oliver Purnell. I wonder if Purnell is telling him to avoid DePaul like the plague.
I agree. This board hasn’t thought too much of the coaching chops of either one of them at various times.
McNeese gave him an extension this morning ...
It won't be Wade at DePaul ... From what I've heard, DePaul is very much waiting to see what happens with the Juwan situation ... But has backup plans in place if it doesn't shake out how they think it will (Schertz, Hurley) ...
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Oh my god that would be hilarious please let that happen
Why in the world would they not take Schertz over Juwan?? They tried the recruiting coach with Stubbs and look how it worked out. They desperately need someone who can actually coach.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
They could hire me and it wouldn't be as insane and stupid of an idea as when they brought back Dave Leitao, I put nothing past them.
It’s maddening. Peevy is a horrible AD. They have no idea how to run proper promotions or ticketing prices. Their mobile pass jumped like $150 this season and is nearly the same price at Illinois mobile ticket season pass.
illiniswish09
- Northwest Suburbs
Juwan would definitely get talent and a lot of Chicago kids to DePaul… Would just be a matter of establishing and sustaining a strong culture which he has clearly struggled with
illiniswish09
- Northwest Suburbs
All that said I don’t know if I see him signing up for that kind of grind…
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Brent Brede. Had a few years in the MLB and in Japan.
I know he came back to coach basketball at Wesclin. Not sure if he is still there.
Lots of stories out there about Laddie Gale and Howard Hobson and the Tall Firs. One I liked and don't know if it's true, but the story goes that when they were leading in games, occasionally one of the players would just walk up in the stands, sit down and read the newspaper.. No sub, just leave the team short handed while he read the local paper.
Nat easy firing a guy like Few.
Longest home court winning streak: 75
Most NCAA tournament appearances: 24
Most NCAA tournament wins: 41
Most NCAA championship game appearances: 2
Most final 4 appearances: 2
Most elite 8 appearances: 5
Most sweet 16 appearances: 12
Most round of 32 appearances: 18
Do not be surprised if UCONN is open ... Sounds like Hurley is definitely going to be entertaining the jump to the NBA ...
Lol didn't mean fired, meant moving to different school/job or retiring. Of course they wouldn't fire him, that's silly.
Totally agree ... Schertz is my guy ... He is going to get a bigger job this cycle ... I've certainly been pushing his name hard with ADs and other people I talk with on the daily that have got some influence ...
As for why they want Juwan ... DePaul gonna DePaul ...
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