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mhuml32
the juiceman cometh said:
Gotta admit, I'm a bit sad. Fran was everything you could want in a nemesis. Entertaining but also easy to dislike. Easily triggered. Competent enough to push you but not actually as good as you.
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Exactly, I want more coaches that are easy to sport hate. We are replacing the Juwan Howard punching, Fran McCaffrey f-bombs with coaches lacking personality like May and Gard.
 
#352      
Oracle21
Iowa should get the Drake coach. He’s the closest thing to Bo Ryan and I think you need a guy like that to win at Iowa. It can’t be a recruiter bc you will always get outbid
 
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skyIdub
Indy Illini Fan said:
DeVries whole family lives in Iowa … It’s sort of a no brainer as long as they can give him some more NIL …

Seeing Chester wearing Iowa gear though … I don’t know if I’ll be able to stomach that …
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#354      
AirNeazy
For all the talk about others, Iowa literally is the definition of a poverty program (for basketball)......will be interesting to see if they can hire someone to take them further. But having Garza and the Murray twins and never being able to sniff a S16 is borderline criminal.
 
#356      
Calvin
PepeSilvia said:
Poor VCU. I don't know who their AD is or who has been making their hiring decisions but they have been hitting home run after home run only to watch them very quickly leave(outside of Shaka).

Have hired Anthony Grant, Shaka, Will Wade, Mike Rhoades, and Odum in succession. Even Jeff Capel was a pretty good mid major hire before Grant.

Whoever is making these hires deserves a raise.
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I remember when we had Henson, Lon Kruger, and Bill Self in succession. I thought at the time it was just a streak that would continue forever. One thing I've learned as a fan --you're always one coach away from greatness or misery. The best programs vet slightly better, but mostily they just cycle faster when they miss.
 
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OrangeBlue98
Calvin said:
I remember when we had Henson, Lon Kruger, and Bill Self in succession. I thought at the time it was just a streak that would continue forever. One thing I've learned as a fan --you're always one coach away from greatness or misery. The best programs vet slightly better, but mostily they just cycle faster when they miss.
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But one advantage of these "best programs" is that at least for a while, they know they will be able to get a top coach the moment they let a coach go. That was the big issue with Mike Thomas. He thought that when he fired Zook and Weber (who both needed to go - let me be clear about that) that the top coaches on the market would line up at his door begging him to coach at Illinois. I know a significant factor in that was that no one really wanted to work for Mike Thomas, but I would imagine if Illinois really was in that ultra-top tier the coaches would have been more forgiving of who the AD was.
 
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OrangeBlue98
Illini IndyCar Fan said:
IU is on like Plan C/D right now. They keep striking out with their top candidates. It's looking like the way the Groce hiring went for us.
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I don't expect it to happen because I think (hope?) Groce knows he's got a sweet gig at Akron and is right where he should be coaching, but how ironic would it be if he does end up at Indiana as the "break glass in case of emergency" coaching option like he was here?

I really don't want to see that. I like Groce and want him to be successful, and I don't think that's happening at IU.
 
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IlliniCub 16
AirNeazy said:
For all the talk about others, Iowa literally is the definition of a poverty program (for basketball)......will be interesting to see if they can hire someone to take them further. But having Garza and the Murray twins and never being able to sniff a S16 is borderline criminal.
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Yeah that 2021 Iowa team had to be one of the most disappointing seasons in school history. Four guys who played in the NBA, Garza, Wieskamp, and the Murray twins plus a veteran Big Ten point guard in Bohannon and McCaffery as a glue guy. They even had C.J Fredrick in the last year he was an effective college basketball player.

I don't know how you have that much talent and finish third in the Big Ten and get boat raced in the second round of the NCAA tourney.

They even got swept by Indiana that year and lost to Minnesota. Archie Miller and Richard Pitino both went on to get fired at the end of that season.

Obviously 2021 was a bummer of an ending for us too, but at least we got to hang one banner that year.
 
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IlliniCub 16
OrangeBlue98 said:
I don't expect it to happen because I think (hope?) Groce knows he's got a sweet gig at Akron and is right where he should be coaching, but how ironic would it be if he does end up at Indiana as the "break glass in case of emergency" coaching option like he was here?

I really don't want to see that. I like Groce and want him to be successful, and I don't think that's happening at IU.
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I don't think they are saying it will be Groce to IU, they are comparing IU having sky high hopes for a new head coach, but ending up with someone on the lower tier like Groce was when we hired him out of Ohio in 2012 after dreaming of Brad Stevens and Shaka Smart.
 
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OrangeBlue98
IlliniCub 16 said:
I don't think they are saying it will be Groce to IU, they are comparing IU having sky high hopes for a new head coach, but ending up with someone on the lower tier like Groce was when we hired him out of Ohio in 2012 after dreaming of Brad Stevens and Shaka Smart.
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Like I said, I absolutely don't think it will happen. It would just be jaw-droppingly ironic if it DID happen.

But it's starting to look like Indiana might be going deep into their list to find their eventual coach.
 
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Illini IndyCar Fan
OrangeBlue98 said:
I don't expect it to happen because I think (hope?) Groce knows he's got a sweet gig at Akron and is right where he should be coaching, but how ironic would it be if he does end up at Indiana as the "break glass in case of emergency" coaching option like he was here?

I really don't want to see that. I like Groce and want him to be successful, and I don't think that's happening at IU.
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Yeah, I'm not suggesting Groce to IU ... I'm just saying that the Hoosiers are going to end up pretty far down their coaching wishlist before they find the right guy (that's willing to sign the contract). I bet their boosters and fanbase aren't going to be too excited about whoever that ends up being.
 
#369      
HereSoIDontGetFined
Just looked over KenPom stats. in 21-22, Iowa was a top 100 defensive team, and top 10 offensively. If that club even played a modicum of defense, they were really good and hard to beat. After 21-22, they're a bottom half defensive team, and haven't pulled 20 wins in a season since. I dunno if Fran just got tired of it, he needed to switch up coaches or what.

How sweet it is to know that not only did his last game end by getting slaughtered on the defensive end, he was ejected, and lost a win-or-go-home game in the first round of the tournament, completing their descent into mediocrity.

In 2021-2022, Iowa ended the season 13th in KenPom. In 2024-2025, they ended the season 15th in the Big Ten.

Bye Fran.
 
#373      
abchew2
I’m going to really miss the Francon meter. This conference needs someone to take that mantle stat
 
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