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I don’t think he’s a terrible coach overall, but that press conference said much more about him and handling pressure than it did about his players.
Tang this will be 3rd year in row KSU has missed NCAA. they are 1-11 in conference this year.
He took zero responsibility - threw his team under bus and said they would not be back next year.
Some people pressure makes diamonds. Others it just makes coal dust.
KSU was 34-58 the 3 years before Tang. He didnt exactly benefit from a smoking hot program like Weber did when Self left. But you're right, they werent HIS players and maybe thats where his issue is. Not actually coaching the game, but roster construction. Its his first head coaching gig and we've seen good coaches just for whatever reason struggle at certain places and bounce back.
My biggest issue was him saying " most of these players aren't coming back next year". To me thats a bull!!!! thing to say when the season isn't over yet. Dont quit on your guys.
Oh lordy.....
RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Man… KSU’s AD is an idiot!
Athletics director Gene Taylor confirmed to The Mercury Monday that when he met with Tang Sunday morning, he offered Tang a choice: coach the rest of the season and then resign, or else be terminated immediately for cause. If Tang chose the former, there would be some kind of financial package offered to him in lieu of a buyout, at an undetermined amount that would be substantially less than the full buyout.
“We never gave him a specific number,” Taylor said.
Now… IANAL, but it seems to me that even Lionel Hutz could make the case that, if you’re firing someone for cause, you don’t allow them to stay on til the end of the year. And if you DO go that route, you don’t publicly admit that’s what you’re doing.
I really am glad we gave Josh at the helm.
Athletics director Gene Taylor confirmed to The Mercury Monday that when he met with Tang Sunday morning, he offered Tang a choice: coach the rest of the season and then resign, or else be terminated immediately for cause. If Tang chose the former, there would be some kind of financial package offered to him in lieu of a buyout, at an undetermined amount that would be substantially less than the full buyout.
“We never gave him a specific number,” Taylor said.
Now… IANAL, but it seems to me that even Lionel Hutz could make the case that, if you’re firing someone for cause, you don’t allow them to stay on til the end of the year. And if you DO go that route, you don’t publicly admit that’s what you’re doing.
I really am glad we gave Josh at the helm.
Wayne Tinkle got his team to an Elite Eight. As an Oregon State fan, I appreciate the job he did that season, but one year doesn’t make you a great or even a particularly good coach. Last time K-State won only one conference game was 1943-44 when it was the Big 6. It’s the whole resume that matters.
Did scout.com just reopen and redirect everyone from 15 years ago?
Do you think Matt Painter is a good coach?
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
There are people who don't, it's a looney bin out here
Bill Hodges is the ultimate example of this. He took Indiana State to the National Championship game in his first season as a head coach. How could you ever get a hotter start than that?
Next three seasons he had a Tang-like trajectory, going 2-14 in conference his last season. Resigned/fired, despite still having an overall winning record. A lot like Tang.
Couldn't get a D-I head coaching job, and after some time as an assistant at Long Beach State, he ended up at NAIA Georgia State, and did well enough to get another D-1 chance with Mercer. Classic redemption arc right?
In 6 seasons with Mercer he went 62-107, did not make a single tournament, and never won more than 15 games.
The plus side, he retired with a winning Tournament record (3-1, all from that first season) so I guess he's better than BU?
Not the first time either but this one was more spectacular
I mean he did have Larry Bird....
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How many times has Coleman been back to K State ?
There’s your answer …
You’re right on Tang lightning in a bottle … Nowell playing out of his mind and Tang dancing was the only thing he ever did …
Tang was the bag man at Baylor when they had it rolling and isn’t a good enough coach to do the whole new roster every year …
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Tyler has been a great offensive coach. However that is only one aspect of the job. The head coach is a CEO and must maintain alumni relations in order to maintain funding and then budget that to build a team. He has to hire a staff that can work together with his leadership. I believe it is easier to hire the x and o technicians than it is to manage the other things. Tyler may have those abilities but they certainly are not on his resume at this point.
Thanks! This answers what I was assuming.
OrangeBlue98
Iowa is not in a great spot right now (LvilleILL1)
- Des Moines, IA
Quin Snyder made an Elite 8. I don’t quite think that’s the flex you think it is.
100%
IANAL but I agree this looks so skeevy as to invite action beyond the regular damages from terminating the contract. Rich people's problems so not really interested from that standpoint. Still, the AD thinking they can create leverage through those tactics seems like it invites a counter-suit.
This just cements in my mind how messy the contracts are in college sports. Schools want to offer contracts with fat guarantees to attract coaches, but then don't want to pay them the guaranteed part when the change their minds.
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