Coaching Carousel (Basketball)
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Would definitely be interesting to see how that coaching search would go, too. Would it end up as much of a disaster as UK's did, or would they get their top targets.
My guess is Jacque Vaughn
They got to see first hand how that would look in the ASU game …
Hiring him would be an absolute mistake for Kansas …
You take your pick of Nate Oats, Todd Golden, Tommy Lloyd, Dusty May or Grant McCasland …
Then you give that guy a blank check …
Anything else is failure …
Would not hurt my feelings to see Dusty out of the B1G. I don't care for him, but dude can coach. IU has to be sick that they shot themselves in the foot on him.
Bigtex
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oats is a distant 5th for me the other 4 are about even
Dusty May.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Do you think they would all take the offer? Michigan and Arizona strike me as sort of in the Illini tier of jobs, in that while it is undeniable Kansas is a "better job," the gap isn't SO big that Michigan/Arizona/Illinois couldn't theoretically fend off KU's offer with a counter offer and intangible stuff (e.g., liking one AD over the other or something like that).
Agreed. Both AZ and MI are heavy favorites to with the whole thing this year. MI had an insane amount of NIL funds. Not sure what KU offers outside of a title change and intense pressure.
A guy like Oats ....maybe.
Totally agree. Kansas views itself as the epicenter of college basketball, and truthfully, they're probably not too far off. Not the type of school to hire a guy just b/c he's part of the "Jayhawk family." He's not Jon Scheyer. Which means, they would go out and have their pick of the best of the best in college basketball. Any of the guys you mentioned would be a slam dunk.
I hope it is Dusty May get him out of the Big Ten
Kansas is a top 3 job in the sport …
In my opinion it’s really Kansas, Kentucky, and Duke in that upper tier …
Agree. UNC would be in that realm if Davis didn't torpedo the brand.
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
I definitely agree if I were just making a list of the top jobs. I'm just curious to hear your thoughts if a program like Michigan could do enough to keep Dusty if Kansas really wanted him, even if KU is the clearly better job. In other words, if KU starts out as a 10/10 job and Michigan is an 8/10 job, could Dusty be convinced that getting those extra 2/10 points of prestige isn't worth the hassle of the move?
I'm curious how much being outside of the Power Two is going to eventually hurt the desirability of some of these programs. I guess that applies to Kansas being in the Big XII, but it seems to be a bigger issue for the ACC. UNC will likely remain an elite job as far into the future as anyone can see, but it will be fascinating to see how much closer some jobs can get to that prestige simply by virtue of having more money coming in every single year, plus the stability of the conference.
Just one example and totally my personal opinion, but let's rewind to the 2005 Final Four, where we shared that honor with Louisville and Michigan State. At the time, I would not have said MSU is a better job than Louisville, partly because my impression was (and to a certain extent still is) that so much of their history was jampacked into the Izzo Era. Today, though? I would still say UL is a great job, but I would say MSU is better by a clear margin, mostly by virtue of not being in the ACC.
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lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
The best jobs are the ones whose programs have the most fans.
North Carolina, for example, is having a good not great season by their standard. #29 in KenPom. But #2 in average attendance per game at 19,194.
UCLA, on the other hand, might be in a wealthier conference, but their attendance is awful. They’re also having a good not great season. #34 in KenPom, just 5 spots below North Carolina. But they’re #69 in the country in average attendance per game at a putrid 6,498. They’re going to struggle to compete going forward.
The teams with the most fans in the stands will raise the most NIL funds to have the best teams.
We’re currently #14 in the country at 14,836 average attendance per game, which is probably right around where our program ranks in NIL funds.
That’s why the morons on X who call for boycotting the games / the program, until we fire Brad or whatever other demand they make, hurt the program way more than they help it.
Fighter of the Nightman
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RE: Job rankings, I honestly think I would take the KU job over any Blue Blood job, assuming the pay is somewhat equal. Kentucky and Duke would probably have the most inpatient and unreasonable fan bases with only marginally better resources than the other schools. UCLA is pretty much only in the club due to respect for their legacy/history, but they don't walk, talk or act like a Blue Blood, lol. That leaves North Carolina and Kansas, and I just would have more of a fondness for being at KU, I think ... partially because of the better fan support and cooler home court atmosphere. Plus, unless you bank on a UNC invite to the Big Ten or SEC, I would rather be in the Big XII right now than the ACC, for sure. I also have a(n admittedly ill-informed) perception that the KU donors would be slightly less insufferable to deal with than the Duke and UNC types.
As far as Big Ten jobs, while acknowledging there is a lot of equality here, I think I would label Maryland as possibly the most overrated (still a good job, but they have the expectations of a UConn with a history somewhere between an Iowa and a Purdue) and Wisconsin as the most underrated (it seems to fly under the radar, but the facilities, fan base, money, etc. all seem to be there while having incredibly reasonable expectations).
As far as Big Ten jobs, while acknowledging there is a lot of equality here, I think I would label Maryland as possibly the most overrated (still a good job, but they have the expectations of a UConn with a history somewhere between an Iowa and a Purdue) and Wisconsin as the most underrated (it seems to fly under the radar, but the facilities, fan base, money, etc. all seem to be there while having incredibly reasonable expectations).
If i were an Arizona fan, i'd be livid if I lost Lloyd - for any job. I'd like to think Zona was a great enough program, even if it is Kanas, that that wouldn't be an issue. Also, Zona took a gamble on Lloyd. I know he was highly regarded, but he still went to a job like Arizona from an assistant role. Not that Lloyd should take a pay cut because of that, but id think if money was equal...
Dusty May leaving for Kansas would be a dream. All 11 Michigan basketball fans would be devastated
Kansas State search is a mess but it won’t be Schertz … I think it’ll likely be Casey Alexander …
Hodgson will have his pick of a handful of places … Syracuse makes a lot of sense if they can get everything in alignment for him …
The Randy Bennett rumors make no sense to me … Think he stays put …
Calhoun to Cincy makes too much sense …
If Braeuer is able to take a better job … Don’t rule out Tyler at SFA …
Hodgson will have his pick of a handful of places … Syracuse makes a lot of sense if they can get everything in alignment for him …
The Randy Bennett rumors make no sense to me … Think he stays put …
Calhoun to Cincy makes too much sense …
If Braeuer is able to take a better job … Don’t rule out Tyler at SFA …
Joel Goodson
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youngblood has positioned himself very, very well. he's gonna have HC options. guessing he's gonna leave the nest
will add that I think that's a great idea, because he needs to be in charge and build a track record
Agreed. Going to be a hit to the offense, but the right decision for him if he wants to stick with college.
Curbelo Fanboy
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As an aside re: Self, it took me a long time but I gotta admit I kinda like the guy again. I just hated him for the longest time after he left here. But in hindsight he made the right move. The Guenther admin followed by the Thomas admin was not a breeding ground for upper echelon college sports. And who can argue with his results. Wouldn't mind seeing him go out (if he does) with a nice March run & then they can hire Dusty May.
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