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Mr. Tibbs

Mr. Tibbs
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Mr. Tibbs
therealmiket86 said:
What teams from the mid 12 would be actuall contenders in the Big10.
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i’m not pretending they will be our equals 5 years from now , but I think the top 6 teams in the B12 could compete on the field during the next 5 years with our top 6

any given Saturday - or something like that
 
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therealmiket86

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Theirs a difference between being able to compete in 1 game vs competing against a big10 schedule. Now that Texas and Oklahoma are gone who would be the top teams
 
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redwingillini11 said:
There has obviously been a lot of talk over the past year or so over on the basketball page of where we might turn if Brad Underwood, for one reason or another, was no longer our coach. But as far as I can recall I don't think we have discussed as much here on the football page. Now, I don't bring this up to say that Bielema has to go or that he hasn't been a satisfactory coach so far. Despite the couple of five win seasons, I have been very impressed with what Bielema has done, and I can't think of anyone off the top of my head that would be better at helping us stay afloat in the B1G.

But I am more curious as to where we stand in this current college football climate. Let's say that Bielema decides he is over coaching and just wants to be a dad and steps down. What kind of coach are we looking to hire? What kind of coach could we actually pull in? Is there anyone specific out there that is a no brainer most likely candidate? I feel like we are in an really interesting spot of not having been a top half of the Power 5 job, but now that we are moving into the Power 2 how desirable of a job do we have? Also keep in mind that you have coaches like Chip Kelly leaving bottom half of the B1G job to be a coordinator at OSU. Does a coach want to take a Big 12 or ACC job and try to win that conference, or does a coach want to take perhaps a higher paying job here to fight to be bowl eligible? Thinking of the main grouping of candidates, I am curious as to where we are looking:

MAC head coaches: There was a period of time where it made all the sense in the world to look to the cradle of coaches. But other than Leipold, who was an explicable exception, the pipeline of MAC to B1G has seemed to dry up. Too many whiffs and the MAC is just not on a competitive enough level to be ready to take over a B1G program. I'm also not sure if there is any logical candidate for us in the MAC right now. The only name I can think of is Jason Candle, but as obviously as Candle is not Beckman, can we really hire another Toledo coach? So I just see this as our likely path.

Non-Power 2 Power 5 head coaches: This is also a path I would be surprised if we went, although perhaps it is becoming more and more possible. Here you have Leipold, Kleiman, Campbell, maybe Dave Doeren. All fantastic coaches (not sure about Campbell but maybe) who I'm sure we'd be thrilled to get. They would never have previously taken a lateral job to Illinois. But this is where maybe this is where being in the Power 2 will pay off. Does someone want to lock themselves into the financial top tier of coaching? I could still see most saying no, as they have already said no to better coaching openings. But does a guy like Matt Campbell decide to "reset the clock" by coming over to Illinois? Not sure. But that would be a great think for us in the new world of college football if that would be considered.

Non-MAC Go5 head coaches: This is what Indiana did getting Curt Cignetti. These conference are obviously a better "minor league" for the Power 2 than the MAC is right now. But there is a lower likelihood of midwest or Illinois roots, so I am not sure there will be many candidates who are obvious fits for us. But perhaps this is where we go.

Wild cards / retreads: This is where we have gone in the past. Zook, Lovie, Bret. Do we go back to the Wisconsin tree and get Paul Chryst? Or even bring back Jim Leonhard?

NFL: I don't see any NFL coordinator taking our job. It would have to be a position coach, and its hard to predict who that could be.

College football coordinators du jour: Another common path, but also hard to predict because the hype around those candidates ramps up throughout the season. But idk, if things go well there do we go after a guy like Kirk Campbell who just got the OC job at Michigan? Young, somewhat inexperienced, and try to grab him before he builds a resume good enough that he gets a better job?

I know my post is a bit rambling, but I'd appreciate anyone's thoughts on what type of coach we would be looking for the next time around and what that says about where Illinois is in this new era of college football.
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Miles Smith
 
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Mr. Tibbs

Mr. Tibbs
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it’s only ever going to be one game , which will be in the CFP.

the B1G teams are NEVER going to schedule them in non con . why should we?

The best team in the B12, whoever it is in any given year , will be competitive against the best team in the B1G if they meet in the post season
 
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therealmiket86

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Those teams have a much easier path to a college football playoff than any big10 team. And are we just comparing the top team from each conference or the conference as a whole
 
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illini0440

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Ander1345 said:
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Scheelhaase hired by the LA Rams to be their passing game coordinator. Congrats Nate!
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the national

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the national
therealmiket86 said:
Theirs a difference between being able to compete in 1 game vs competing against a big10 schedule. Now that Texas and Oklahoma are gone who would be the top teams
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I’m sorry but do you watch the B12? Not meant to be snarky but the competition over there isn’t any worse than the west. In fact, I’d say they they stomp the west.

The purse isn’t always the most important thing.
 
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the national said:
I’m sorry but do you watch the B12? Not meant to be snarky but the competition over there isn’t any worse than the west. In fact, I’d say they they stomp the west.

The purse isn’t always the most important thing.
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Yes I watch big12 football. Also the west is no longer a thing. Compare the teams each conference has added.
 
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SoCal Illini

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mhuml32 said:
Now this is different than the other hires. This is a guy who's never been in the pros and he's jumping to a job that isn't clearly a promotion. First obvious sign for those saying the college coaching profession is being hurt by NIL in a tangible way.
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I don’t know if it’s being ‘hurt’, at least right now, but it’s certainly changing. Overall it’s requiring a different type of personality to be a college coach that must be willing and able to deal with the ‘new’. Definitely a different approach. For some they need to adapt, or otherwise go elsewhere or retire. There will always be a large group of candidates clamoring for college coaching jobs, but what happens on the field (and off) as a result remains to be seen. Bob stoops was the first major example I can think of who just said, ‘yeah… I’m done’.

I wouldn’t want to be one.
 
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ptgrd23

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LA Rams >>>>> Iowa State
LA >>>>>Ames Iowa
Sean McVay >>> Matt Campbell
NFL >>>> Big12
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Great career move - after 8 years college football coaching experience, get some NFL coaching experience under the best young coach in the league

No recruiting
No transfer portal
No NIL

Nate can always go back to college. Bret did a year under Belichik.
 
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Hmmm, sounds like pretty good records to long time Illini fans. Let’s get consistent like that and then go from there.