Coaching Carousel (Football)

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I think we can all agree that starting as the HC for the browns would likely not set NS up for long term success, but a head coaching position is a head coaching position?
I think Belichick started here. Of course, many others followed and also failed.
 
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A passing game coordinator with no leadership experience going to a place with zero support structure, a high profile quarterback controversy, and a weak front office.

I understand wanting to get to the top, but this may derail future opportunities. I wish him luck, but the Brows are just a dumpster fire from top to bottom.
I get the concern, and share it, but I still think you gotta take it. It's an NFL head coaching gig. And if you have talent, you find your level. If he has HC talent, even if the Browns job is a bust, he'll get another chance (see Belichick, Carroll). If it turns out his peak is elite OC, he can fail at multiple HC gigs and still end up being a top OC in the league, like Josh McDaniels who has been fired as a HC twice, and is the OC for a team that just punched their ticket to the Super Bowl.

I mean, even the guys who have fallen on their faces spectacularly with the Browns all found work after. Stefanski immediately found another NFL head coaching gig. Kitchens is still getting opportunities (and getting fired from them). Even Hue Jackson managed to find work after going an astonishing 3-36 in his time as the Browns HC.
 
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I get the concern, and share it, but I still think you gotta take it. It's an NFL head coaching gig. And if you have talent, you find your level. If he has HC talent, even if the Browns job is a bust, he'll get another chance (see Belichick, Carroll). If it turns out his peak is elite OC, he can fail at multiple HC gigs and still end up being a top OC in the league, like Josh McDaniels who has been fired as a HC twice, and is the OC for a team that just punched their ticket to the Super Bowl.

I mean, even the guys who have fallen on their faces spectacularly with the Browns all found work after. Stefanski immediately found another NFL head coaching gig. Kitchens is still getting opportunities (and getting fired from them). Even Hue Jackson managed to find work after going an astonishing 3-36 in his time as the Browns HC.

Yes, you gotta take it. Cash those checks. He'll also be young enough that folks could explain away what happens under Browns ownership.
 
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My guess is Leonhard promotes to Broncos DC, assuming Vance Joseph gets a head coaching job.
 
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I like that you answered the question in a way that doesn't tell us if A-Hen stays or goes.
 
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Is it bad that I fear for our boy if he takes the Browns job?
no, I have serious concerns about it as well. A tough place to start out as HC
*If* you could beat some sense and maturity into Shedeur Sanders that's actually a sneaky good job. An elephant-sized if. But maybe Nate seems like the kind of person who could do that? That's surely what the Browns are thinking.
 
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*If* you could beat some sense and maturity into Shedeur Sanders that's actually a sneaky good job. An elephant-sized if. But maybe Nate seems like the kind of person who could do that? That's surely what the Browns are thinking.

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