Coaching Carousel (Football)

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Are the people who wanted to move on from Henry and the people who don't like the Hauck hire a circle instead of a venn diagram? Seems like people are just never happy.
Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
 
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I understand your hesitance, and am a little confused by it myself, but I'd advise taking my approach on this one: trust Coach B.

He's earned our patience and benefit of doubt, IMO. I don't know what's going on, but I know I trust Coach B.
You are right coach B has earned the benefit of doubt, for sure.just felt underwhelmed with the hire.I need to take the wait and see approach hopefully he will bring more aggressive approach then ahen did
 
#353      
Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
Yes I heard of Hauck before yesterday. He’s an excellent coach. You people are so caught up on a name . You never heard of Curt Cignetti either before Indiana hired him. Yes the same Curt Cignetti that NEVER WON A National Championship at James Madison but won a National Championship at Indiana. For the people that’s hung up on Chris Partridge please explain to me what he has done as defense coordinator. When he was the co defensive coordinator at Ole Miss he was terrible. People on here just talking nonsense and have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about. This is an excellent hire by Bret.
 
#354      
Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
I never heard of Keaton Wagler until he came here...
 
#355      
Are the people who wanted to move on from Henry and the people who don't like the Hauck hire a circle instead of a venn diagram? Seems like people are just never happy.
I'll say the thing that will get everybody mad, what the heck, glad to be of service:

If it would have meant keeping our guys in the front seven for the most part, gun to my head, I would have continued with Henry over doing this.

Bret has forgotten more about football than I'll ever know, I hope I'm wrong, and I find the plan here clear and legible at least, which makes me feel better, but all in all this just doesn't particularly fill me with confidence as a stronger footing to move forward with.

Happy to be dunked on in a year.

Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
I had absolutely known of Hauck's success at Montana before, but true confession, when I saw the name I knew I had heard of the guy but had to look it up, and I had no idea about his association with Rocky Long and the 3-3-5.

I was better at this when I was younger and less busy and Illinois was in need of firing its coach every five minutes.
 
#356      
Based on the way Werner and Wagner described it, switching the defense was the plan all along and was the reason for a few of the D-Line transfers.
Don't disagree, but don't DL like stunting and playing in 1 gap disruptive defenses?
 
#357      
Based on the way Werner and Wagner described it, switching the defense was the plan all along and was the reason for a few of the D-Line transfers.
Yep, starting about the 10:00 mark is where he starts taking questions and the scheme change/transfers are the first things he talks about.

 
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Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
No one did and that’s exactly the problem. Once again, we acted like we outsmarted everyone. Sometimes I want Bret to just go get a solid, established B‑level coordinator and let’s roll. He gets a little too cute with things sometimes, and it worries me.
 
#360      
Warner and Wagner convinced this was the first pick and all the Super Bowl comments were a "smokescreen". That seems like a major reach.
If Bret already had his guy what's the point of putting out fake clues to throw people off the scent?
Were there other schools with DC openings in February clamoring to hire a 61 year old FCS Head Coach?
Not saying this is a bad hire, but that take reeks of copium.
There covering for BB
 
#361      
Might have been on a different website but I definitely remember discussing him as a potential Zook replacement as the 2009 disaster unfolded. God I'm old.
Doesn't seem the search goes back that far. Searched "Izzo" as a test and the oldest post I could find was July 1, 2015. So I can confidently say from July 1, 2015 through February 8, 2025, the name "Hauck" was not mentioned one time on this board.
 
#362      
I wanted a defensive coaching change and got it. I believed the insiders that Partridge was the guy. I was a bit disappointed he wasn't. Hauck seems to be very capable and a good backup plan, pivot, or desperation move, if he wasn't the first choice.

I'm looking forward to next year. :hailtotheorange: I bet a lot of other posters have similar feelings.
 
#364      
I'm guessing its easier to land a half dozen guys who fit this defense than landing the half dozen of our last defense. Finding athletic kids to run around and fill holes seems easier than finding the athletic big men for the defense we ran. 6.3/280 seems easier to find than 6.5 310. Especially those who are athletic. Same might be true of the LB play.

If that's true, and I think it is, I'm guessing BB is simply thinking this extends his purchase power. Instead of competing for the same dozen or so guys that all the Big10 and SEC are fighting for, we change the economy on what we are looking for. Longer take to simply say BB is in the "value buy" business. Extending our NIL money to field a stronger team or to put it into different places of priority, Like a marque QB/WR/LT.

Can one of the math gurus come up with how much each of our defensive stops cost us? Or maybe how much our DL was worth for NIL money and how many yards per run attempt they gave up to see how expensive each yard was?

Still not sure I am crazy about lining up 3 DL against 12 personal or even 13, especially with the quality that we will see in the Big 10. I know we will "always" be flexing someone down somewhere but my goodness ....
 
#365      
Had you ever heard of Hauck before yesterday?

Had you heard about all the championships Montana has won when he was the HC?

Had you ever heard anything about the amazing defense at Montana and their defensive mastermind HC who crafted it?

If so, you are way more plugged in than the average college football fan. I don’t think the two things are remotely mutually exclusive.
If you only follow the U of I, or P4 football, then you wouldn't know anything about Hauck. However, following FCS football, then you know that Hauck is a winner. His time at Nevada didn't produce many wins, but he definitely was a winner at the FCS level.
 
#366      
So Urlacher played in this 3-3-5 defense. This is great for our safeties and middle linebackers.

Isn’t this the defense that Nebraska runs?
Tony White (now at FSU) ran the 3-3-5 at Nebraska with decent success in 2023 and 2024. He also had a talented DL at Nebraska during that time which is the position that will likely determine the early success of this scheme at Illinois next year. Henry's "bend-don't-break" defense was frustrating in its lack of aggression and creativity but ultimately limited big plays enough to keep us in every game. This new scheme will bring more aggression and creativity but at the expense of exposing the defense to big plays. The highs will be higher and the lows will be lower. I'm unsure about the hire but definitely intrigued.
 
#367      
“A lot of the head coach stuff in current day Division I college football is not enjoyable. I think it's the perfect time for me to retire."

his exact words . nothing there is concerning at all with him being our DC

I agree with that. I think coaches need to be “all in” and not just coaching because they like the new pay check they are getting
 
#369      
I don’t have a hot take…but it kinda feels like this.

We are at a restaurant specifically for a special dessert that we’ve been waiting to try for a long time. We watch as that dessert is delivered to the table right next to ours where yummy noises proceed to fill our ears for our entire meal.
We finish our meal and the waiter informs us that table next to us received the last of the special dessert we wanted….so please enjoy this complimentary hot fudge Sunday instead.
The cherries are organic.
... and later that evening as we're basking in the afterglow of our meal we learn that the diners adjacent to us have succumbed to botulism.
 
#371      
I have no idea what some of the people on this Board are talking about. I think this is an excellent hire by Bret. We saw Chip Kelly step down from being the head coach at UCLA to become the offensive coordinator at Ohio State and now he’s the offensive coordinator at Northwestern. Chip said he just wants to coach and doesn’t want the responsibilities of being the head coach .Hauck Elliot and now retired Iowa State defensive coordinator Jim Heacock are experts in the 3-3-5 defensive. No team in the Big Ten is running the 3-3-5 defense. Bret was right Illinois had to make a change on defense. Everyone in the Big Ten is running some version of the Ryan Walters defense. Purdue and Washington are running the exact same defense we were.

Yeah let’s see if a new gimmick defense works. A 3-3-5 necessitates having at least one gigantic NT, and a lot of good DBs. We have neither at the moment but now that we know what we will be running let’s see what happens
 
#372      
Yeah let’s see if a new gimmick defense works. A 3-3-5 necessitates having at least one gigantic NT, and a lot of good DBs. We have neither at the moment but now that we know what we will be running let’s see what happens
I actually would anticipate our NT's being a little smaller and quicker, they'll be required to slant and stunt a lot more
 
#373      
I for one am glad we are moving forward with this guy. I became overly frustrated with Henry because of the inconsistency portrayed throughout his tenure.
 
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