And Moser has the same number of Final 4 appearances as UI has in 32 yrs. And UI has superior talent almost every one of those 32 yrs. It's not all due to a slow, plodding guy who can't jump and might not be able to dunk either. Loyola played about the best defense we have seen this year, maybe Baylor was better...that's coaching fellas.
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Saw Woodson drop 47 on us back in the day. Baller. Anyways, I think a lot of Hoosier fans will be pretty upset if he's the one.
Things like this drive me up a wall during a coaching search because everyone gets what they claim to be the scoop on who the new hire will be and then there are 4 different names that have all accepted the job, just waiting to make it official now. Completely stupid... I heard from a confidential source that Pat Riley and Phil Jackson were two finalist, announcement coming soon...
I see where you are coming from, but I just disagree on the whole.
Would we trade BU for Moser right now?
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Woodson is 62 (Christ, I'm old). He may be a real good guy and coach, but, boy, would he be a letdown for a big chunk of their fanbase. Ya gotta love it. Hopefully, Muslleman stays put.
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Shantay Legans, Eastern Washington's head coach, has just been named head coach of the University of Portland. Portland is in the same conference (West Coast) as Gonzaga, BYU, and St. Mary's. Eastern Washington was eliminated from the NCAA tournament in the first round by Kansas after having an early large lead on the Jayhawks.
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No way!
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A lot of posts about basically if Moser is a good coach or if it's mostly due to Krutwig. Honestly it's both, and that's pretty much the case with any "great" mid major coach. They have to find the player, or players, that pushes them to that next level. In Moser's case it's Krut. Just look at Underwood. Think he has the same career trajectory without Thomas Walkup? Doubtful.
The problem can be a lot of coaching promotions are created in March.
Moser did a masterful job preparing for us and got a big win. But if you look at the season, he didn't beat any of the good teams on his schedule. Look at Groce. If memory serves correct he never ended better than third in the MAC, but he had a nice March and he ended up in Champaign.
When I look at a perspective coach I want to see success at every stop and I want to see that success pretty quickly at each stop.
When I look at Porter Moser I see ehhh at Arkansas Little Rock, no improvement in 3 years. I see poor performance at ISU. Then at Loyola, meh until Krutwig showed up, and don't forget Lance Williamson.
So to me Moser becomes a big bust risk. An AD has to discern, did he just learn and become a better coach, or did a couple of very talented players make him look far better than he actually is. Creating a masterful plan for 1 game in March does not mean you will be successful in a step up in competition over the course of a full season.
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Spot on. Especially the bolded part.
Drawing conclusions from sample sizes of very few games is not advisable. At all.
Couldn't agree more. Great post.
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I agree with pretty much all of this.
Moser and Groce are pretty opposite ends of the spectrum in my opinion. Moser has now established Loyola at the top of the MVC. Groce was never close to that in the MAC. Both coaches made their "runs" with good talent, Groce via transfer, Moser via Krut. I have no inside information but Groce was on the radar not just for his tourney performance, but also because he was Matta's top assistant and a known high-major top recruiter. If he was an older, lifer mid major coach, that Ohio run would've maybe opened a few doors but definitely not the Illinois opening. Moser has been around and had multiple coaching stints, none super successful, but you cannot discount what he has legitimately built at Loyola. Some people/coaches just need time to learn and adapt, and I think his time at St. Louis working for Majerus was the turning point.
I was one who thought their final 4 run a few years back was basically a complete fluke, but watching them in this tournament, they are clearly a well coached and talented team. You have to give credit where credit is due. He put on a coaching clinic against Underwood, and now they are arguably the favorite in that region.
Moser has become a very good defensive coach. That team is not full of big time athletes and that defense was stifling.
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Musellman would be my first choice if I was an IU fan. Disappointing end to his Nevada teams, but he has Arkansas humming quickly. Feels like he could be a BU-esque hire considering trajectory.
Although, Brad Steven's barber's dog told my 2nd grade teacher he was interested in the IU job.
Although, Brad Steven's barber's dog told my 2nd grade teacher he was interested in the IU job.
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More and more I think being elite defensively is not about athletes. Look at LSU last night, they are a team full of elite athletes yet Michigan got whatever they wanted in halfcourt.
Being good defensively means every player on the court being connected and executing. It also means creating an effective gameplan to counter all american players.
I wonder if they're drinking Makers Mark and smoking cigars with Jimmy Jackson
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Confirmed @GoodmanHoops report that DePaul is attempting to zero in on Kenny Payne.
Confirmed @GoodmanHoops report that DePaul is attempting to zero in on Kenny Payne.
Kenny Payne is in my ears and in my eyes.
I remember Loyola going once. When was the other year?
Unless your day job is as a comedian, in which case ...
Might be in the minority but I think that would be a good hire for DePaul. Still think the Blue Demons could turn things around. There's no reason the state of Illinois couldn't be getting 2-3 teams in the tourney every year. Like Mullins at SIU, us, and someone out of Bradley, Loyola, NU, DePaul could make it every now and then
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