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The Galloping Ghost

The Galloping Ghost
Washington, DC
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LvilleILL said:
If what I just heard was true, would be the biggest moment for our program in a longggg time.
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FollowMeDontFollowMe

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No we get to see all the journalists reporting that their “sources” are saying OA to Kentucky is not a done deal.

Edit: I guess they’re already saying that, but now they’ll start reporting on the rumors in this thread is my point.
 
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zentrails

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JFGsCoffeeMug said:
Someone who is elite in identifying talent, attracting talent, and developing talent is going to be worth a lot. A whole heckuva lot. That sure sounds like a fair description of the best assistant coach in the country to me. We lose OA, then fine, we do our best to identify our next best replacement. But until he tells us no, you treat him like the "franchise player" he is.
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Sure, but calling OA the best asst coach in the world doesn't explain why until now, nobody tried to hire him away from us. He wasn't "elite" last year?

Sure he crapped out at S. Florida, with a whiff of scandal, but where were all the asst. coaching offers since it was widely known that KY did well with him there? Nobody thought he was "elite" then? How come S. Florida was the best HCing gig he could get? How did we end up with him for FOUR years?

He's very good at what he does, but he's fairly easily replaceable IMO. If we offer the kind of money being talked about here to others, REAL easily replaceable once again JMO.

This situation reminds me of that old board when Self left. Everyone panicked "we can't keep good coaches" "We're gonna lose players" "We're doomed we can't have nice things" etc, but soon after the next guy we hired not only kept most of the players, but actually got us to the NC game. Anyone want to give all the credit for that to one of our Asst coaches at the time?

Sure he fell apart with time but so what? Anybody want to blame that on Jerrance Howard leaving? No, the guy was just over his head, like OA was over his head at S. Florida. He's "elite" except as a HC, I guess. And nobody noticed his "eliteness" until now.
 
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illinibb76

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I asked my insider connection for some update but he’s alone waiting! But he is in side!!!!
 
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The Galloping Ghost

The Galloping Ghost
Washington, DC
The Galloping Ghost
The assumption has to be, if JW was getting boosters to spend for OA, he was also getting them to spend for Chin, too. Hopefully, they both are signed, sealed, and delivered.
 
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zentrails said:
Sure, but calling OA the best asst coach in the world doesn't explain why until now, nobody tried to hire him away from us. He wasn't "elite" last year?

Sure he crapped out at S. Florida, with a whiff of scandal, but where were all the asst. coaching offers since it was widely known that KY did well with him there? Nobody thought he was "elite" then? How come S. Florida was the best HCing gig he could get? How did we end up with him for FOUR years?

He's very good at what he does, but he's fairly easily replaceable IMO. If we offer the kind of money being talked about here to others, REAL easily replaceable once again JMO.

This situation reminds me of that old board when Self left. Everyone panicked "we can't keep good coaches" "We're gonna lose players" "We're doomed we can't have nice things" etc, but soon after the next guy we hired not only kept most of the players, but actually got us to the NC game. Anyone want to give all the credit for that to one of our Asst coaches at the time?

Sure he fell apart with time but so what? Anybody want to blame that on Jerrance Howard leaving? No, the guy was just over his head, like OA was over his head at S. Florida. He's "elite" except as a HC, I guess. And nobody noticed his "eliteness" until now.
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Honestly, not many people around the country are aware of OA. He's a god in Lexington because of what he did when he was there but most people probably remember him flaming out as USF.
 
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JW

JW
Vancouver
JW
zentrails said:
Sure, but calling OA the best asst coach in the world doesn't explain why until now, nobody tried to hire him away from us. He wasn't "elite" last year?

Sure he crapped out at S. Florida, with a whiff of scandal, but where were all the asst. coaching offers since it was widely known that KY did well with him there? Nobody thought he was "elite" then? How come S. Florida was the best HCing gig he could get? How did we end up with him for FOUR years?

He's very good at what he does, but he's fairly easily replaceable IMO. If we offer the kind of money being talked about here to others, REAL easily replaceable once again JMO.

This situation reminds me of that old board when Self left. Everyone panicked "we can't keep good coaches" "We're gonna lose players" "We're doomed we can't have nice things" etc, but soon after the next guy we hired not only kept most of the players, but actually got us to the NC game. Anyone want to give all the credit for that to one of our Asst coaches at the time?

Sure he fell apart with time but so what? Anybody want to blame that on Jerrance Howard leaving? No, the guy was just over his head, like OA was over his head at S. Florida. He's "elite" except as a HC, I guess. And nobody noticed his "eliteness" until now.
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zentrails has a point.

This isn't to say that we shouldn't fight to keep OA and Chins.

A few weeks ago we lost against a much weaker Loyola, and Adam Miller entered the transfer portal and Giorgi announced his departure, along with Ayo. The mood on the board was quite sour and the program looked like it had taken a big step back.

Our incoming recruits are very good, but not earth shattering. I'm quite excited about Podz but some of his hype seems to derive from the fact that Kansas and Kentucky were pursuing him.

There is this odd way of assigning all potential accolades in certain places, without any of the correlating criticism.
 
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logjam

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zentrails said:
Sure, but calling OA the best asst coach in the world doesn't explain why until now, nobody tried to hire him away from us. He wasn't "elite" last year?

Sure he crapped out at S. Florida, with a whiff of scandal, but where were all the asst. coaching offers since it was widely known that KY did well with him there? Nobody thought he was "elite" then? How come S. Florida was the best HCing gig he could get? How did we end up with him for FOUR years?

He's very good at what he does, but he's fairly easily replaceable IMO. If we offer the kind of money being talked about here to others, REAL easily replaceable once again JMO.

This situation reminds me of that old board when Self left. Everyone panicked "we can't keep good coaches" "We're gonna lose players" "We're doomed we can't have nice things" etc, but soon after the next guy we hired not only kept most of the players, but actually got us to the NC game. Anyone want to give all the credit for that to one of our Asst coaches at the time?

Sure he fell apart with time but so what? Anybody want to blame that on Jerrance Howard leaving? No, the guy was just over his head, like OA was over his head at S. Florida. He's "elite" except as a HC, I guess. And nobody noticed his "eliteness" until now.
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Recruiting is fluid, asst coaches aren't fungible.
 
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ChiefIlliniwek2

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nycillini said:
Honestly, not many people around the country are aware of OA. He's a god in Lexington because of what he did when he was there but most people probably remember him flaming out as USF.
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People who know about assistant coaches know about Orlando Antigua. Being considered a god in Lexington makes you a pretty well-known commodity. I would even say being an assistant at Kentucky is a higher-profile gig than being a head coach at USF.
 
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