Can’t replace OA. Chin though is very replaceable.
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I suspect that most of the know that they will never play basketball professionally and are transferring to get more playing time, a warmer climate (or cooler if they chose AZ or KU), be closer to home, etc..
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...and has been.
I suspect some are very realistic about transferring, but a lot of them I would bet are smoking the hopium... Don't forget, Adam Miller expected to be one and done. High major players seem to think that way because of the talent level they are told they have.
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So in affect you are kind of agreeing with the mad scramble?
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One of the biggest problems i think we have is even if we hire a respected recruiter there is no guarantee that will translate to success here. Some universities have perceived advantages or disadvantages.
Even after we hire kurtis townsend there is no guarantee he will succeed here.
Even after we hire kurtis townsend there is no guarantee he will succeed here.
So far, no rumors about Underwood leaving. I remember the day I read Frank Williams was heading to UNC and Kansas was rumored to be hiring.....
Groce may have had some nationally ranked recruiting classes, but how many nationally ranked teams?
I think Josh, BU, and BB in football have us in good shape!
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Groce may have had some nationally ranked recruiting classes, but how many nationally ranked teams?
I think Josh, BU, and BB in football have us in good shape!
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Yep definitely a bad look....but I know for fact SK has opened the pocketbook on several occasions and gave generously to various departments at UI
Denying degree a major mistake
The failure to grant an honorary University of Illinois degree to Shahid Khan is a stupendous display of bad judgment. It's so bad that it's breathtaking.www.news-gazette.com
I mean, that would seem to apply to OA whose recruiting success was at Kentucky, yet he did great work here. I dont think it would apply to Mennenga or Young as much, as neither would have been coming from a blue blood. I don't see UI as a more difficult sell than Oregon or UConn.
I’d say more difficult than Oregon, but no more difficult than UConn.
Might actually be slightly easier at UConn... Multiple national championships at a basketball-first school in a basketball-only league that plays their tournament ever year at the most famous arena in the world.
Illinivek23
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Can't take another F4 weekend!
Wasn’t that impressed with Chin’s resume coming in but he exceeded my expectations. Chet looks better on resume and think he will be equivalent or possibly better. OA on the other hand had a resume that included contacts from his playing days and P5 experience. Replacing him will be difficult but certainly have a head start from where OA started so can afford some growing pains. Have to expect it with success so don’t throw in the towel just yet. Just consider why it wasn’t a problem with Groce.
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I’d agree with this. Oregon has some of the best facilities in the country, veeeeeery deep pockets and Oregon is really beautiful.
Can't say I agree much with this take. So out of Grandison, Payne, Hutcherson, and Plummer, which two do you think will be wrong about developing better?
I actually think that a relatively small percentage transfer because they think they'll develop better. Most probably are looking for more playing time. Some don't like their coaches. They really are in too high of a division for their skills. A lot of other reasons. I'd be curious to look at numbers and see who made a right decision based on performance.
If BU wants Pinkins, great. But the Payne transfer was positively received here because our guy (Kofi) tremendously outperformed Payne despite similar rankings. This was perceived by many to be a result of coaching. (Who really knows?) The skepticism on Pinkins and his ability to develop talent is warranted.
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Lot's of dribbling towards the end....
TheFameProtector
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To those in the know, think there's any chance we circle back to Mennenga or Young and raise the offer? Or are they out out?
Good one!
Hi, I'm IllinoisLoyalty.
Sometimes, nothing is happening, especially in the offseason. I don't like that. When nothing is happening, that's boring, and I want something to happen.
Sometimes, something is happening, but it seems bad. I don't like that. When something bad is happening, I am worried other bad things might happen, and that would make me sad.
Sometimes, something is happening, and it might even seem good. I'm not sure how I feel about that. Sometimes the good thing is not as good as the thing I wanted. Sometimes it is scary and unexpected. Also, sometimes when good things happen, that reminds me that bad things could start happening again. And good things happening doesn't matter if we lose games. I care about not losing games during the season.
During the season, sometimes we lose games. I really don't like that. When we lose games, I look for people to blame. There are a lot of people I can blame. Some of those people did something or didn't do something a long time ago. But blaming people makes me feel better, even though it's not as good as winning.
Sometimes we win games. I like winning games. I like it a lot. But when we lose, I get so upset that I forget all about the games we won. I don't like losing. I only want to win. And when we lose at the end of the season, it's the worst. If nothing changes, we might not get better. But if something changes, we might get worse. Then again, if nothing changes, we could also get better. And by changing something, we might not get worse. It's all very confusing to me. But I will criticize the people making these decisions, because I feel personally offended by their failures. Focusing on others helps me to avoid self-reflection.
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Perhaps i should use the analagy of the iditorod or the grand prix.
An individual could be well established in the dog breeding arena but fail miserably trying to field a sled team for alaska. Likewise a truly great indy 500 team may find it hard to transition to formula one. I am not saying these individuals are not great and that there are not great basketball assistant coaches out there, but really dont you think there are a lot of games going on for chicago recruits? And dont you think that some schools have a lager metroplois surrounding them?
Or dont you think some campuses are more appealing tonanyoung person? So it may take a certain kind of individual to overcome any of these barriers or more that i have not listed. The only way to tell if a coach can survive and thrive here is the test of fire. With live ammo.
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Groce definetelynhad problems. He got kids that had a great pedigree and did not improve there skills. Or like some ...nunn.. he kept them on the bench untill the season was over and then brought them in when clealy they outplayed everyone else. Is this all on groce or did some of his asst coaches fail to develope his kids.
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