Is a 30-80 ACC record at WF for Manning in 6 years bad??
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illini80
- Forgottonia
I’m not following all you are saying. What was Chin lying about wrt Miller? I know you’ve said he overstated our position with recruits, but were there other things? I know you may not want to comment on everything. Also this is the first I’ve heard the bag man comment regarding Chin.
Or they are just kids. Getting the attention of a visit and being recruited is exciting and gets kids hyped up. Of course they are going to say good things immediately following a visit.
I agree it’s folly to put much weight on the comments we hear after visits, but that’s on us, not the kids.
Barbee took the Central Michigan job, then Flint moved into his role. Justus left and wound up at ASU, don't know if he was shown the door or not...
100% agree, I don't think any of his recruits are even on the team anymore besides Hawkins... I'm not going to count BBV or Lieb because let's just be honest with ourselves here, neither is going to touch the court.
I see 247 gave Chin credit for getting Skyy Clark... LOL he had nothing to do with getting him.
Loyalillini10
- Urbana, IL
Nutt, I love you man, but you are comparing the coaches after they were here for 4 years with the new ACs at the beginning of their tenure. A fair comparison is how you felt about OA and Chin when they were first hired to how you feel about the new ACs.
NEIlliniFan
- No longer in New England
Exactly.
Candidate A:
Age-43 (estimate)
Prior AC experience (oldest to most recent) -
- 1 season Mountain West Conference
- 3 seasons Missouri Valley Conference
- 2 seasons Horizon League
Candidate B:
Age - 35
Prior AC experience -
- 7 seasons Big 12
- 2 seasons ACC (associate head coach)
Now, Candidate B has a far more substantive resume and he's younger.
illini80
- Forgottonia
Wasn’t Chin the recruiter for Podz and Storr? There’s no doubt OA did the heavy lifting.
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pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
The scent of this thread is hard to resist, but resist you must.......
Paradise is before us, at our grasp......the first contact date has been set and all will be astounded at the placid tone across the globe as true happiness will finally be a norm for civilization.....
Noblesville Illini
- Nappanee, IN
THAT was Awesome!
illininutt
- Tinley Park
But...losing the 3 AC's we are "starting over." For the past couple years the only one I cared about was OA. The others were just "tag alongs." Getting into the NY/East Coast went a long way to our team last year.
Loyalillini10
- Urbana, IL
You are getting off your own topic here. You were comparing our new hires to our old ACs and rating the new ones on the beginning of their tenure here vs the old ones on the end of their tenure. That is what I was responding to.
Also, Chester Frazier has a ton of East Coast ties.
pruman91
- Paducah, Ky
Being all alone on this piece of rock has me questioning the meaning of life and how the AC3 hire fits into the grand scale of this universe......
WILSON !!!!!!!!!!!!! What does it all mean ???????????????????
is there any hope of an AC3 soon ???????????????????
talk to me Wilson !!!
I had a bladder infection cured in The Green Mile
Insomnia cured in Sleepless in Seattle
Virginity cured in Forrest Gump
And now I'm elated at fire !.........What's it all mean ????? Is a AC3 hire the cure to my feeling of being a castaway on this remote isle ?
it's Chambana or bust..........
to be continued..............................
Next week per Brad Sturdy.
Don't say we. You aren't happy with the 2 assistants and you're entitled to your opinion. I think that both are going to be very good and will help Illinois in recruiting and teaching. If Underwood does bring in an assistant with the ability to recruit nationally, this will be a better staff than the last one.
Thank you for comments. Coleman's becoming a legend in some posters mind. I don't care if Coleman is now working for Kentucky, he's a mid major type of assistant. No one knows except Ayo and his family, but was Coleman the reason he came to Illinois or would he have come even if Coleman wasn't an assistant?
Then why did they have to overhaul their existing staff?
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
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Brad Sturdy doesn't know anymore now that Antigua his "buddy" is gone.
Coleman wasn't "in good" with Chicago coaches, he was in good with the Fire. If Coleman was an 8 in your estimation, why was he at UIC? And if you rate Antigua as a 9.5, why was he available when Underwood hired him? If he was so highly thought of, why didn't Cal bring him back to Kentucky? Why didn't another blue blood hire him? He brought in talent, but when I think of "incredible", I think of 5* and how many of those did he recruit to Illinois? Also, Underwood has been in the coaching business for about 35 years, so I think he knows something about good assistants and since he hired Frazier and Alexander, I'm good with them.
9-16 record, not making the dance and 8th place in SEC is reason enough at Kentucky.
This is really an interesting post.
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