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BZuppke
- Plainfield
Even though we're not quite sure when his mother's birthday is. Somewhere from mid July to mid August is the best we can guess.
Sorry....bad link. Let's try this again. https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...h02pWGGunbUvfaPICxjfC7zm20kEjzFJQA-mVlTxloDmwOk…after reading this I don’t want candle to go to IU.Look at this post on Facebook https://www.toledoblade.com/sports/ut/2023/11/29/briggs-an-appreciation-of-toledo-football-coach-jason-candle/stories/20231129093?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&Echobox=1701291791&fbclid=IwAR0dXAP57uuAgEZ354gCfTC1mSuZ2bYenTYGnlJhGcHoxTRPCig-DP_LSAw_aem_AblvD9Q5Jg5iLlG-gxOvnFeQ1yynAipfeL6WQWO2-kRwI3N_43oh8PKnn3W8WMZYq0w
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Then what happened?
He turned that success into the head coaching job at Miss. State. The year before Moorhead, they had the 41st-scoring offense with Mullen. With Moorhead? It went from 41st to 68th to 74th. He was fired in two years.
He went to Oregon as their OC. The year before he took over, they had the 16th-highest scoring offense. He proceeded to make them the 42nd in both of his seasons, their worst mark since pre-Chip Kelly.
He's hired as Akron HC, who had one of the worst offenses before he was hired (119th out of 130). Since he was hired? He produced the 107th highest scoring offense in 2022 and the 131st (out of 133) scoring offense this year.
There's no spinning that resume.
Joe or Aaron Moorehead?
For the right money ... I have heard Collin Klein would be available ...
Thought this was interesting regarding Bray. From an insider on the Oregon State board I visit. He may not be at the level of you and Indy as far as “insiderness,” but his info is usually pretty good. Guess Smith was originally going to bring Bray with him.
“Both Bray and Smith left the VFC after the Civil War expecting Bray to be on the plane to Michigan the following morning.
Bray and Woz [Brian Wozniak/TE coach/recruiting coordinator] were driven home by a "friend of the program" who talked Bray into staying in town. All that did was buy some time and allow a very small group to approach Barnes [AD] on Bray's behalf. Bray still had to interview and go through that process (even though he was being HEAVILY recommended for the job). One of these alums was instrumental in getting Smith over the finish line when he was hired.
Bray was not anointed. He went through a multi stage process this weekend and made a huge impression on Barnes. He had to earn it and he did.
The more salacious stuff had to do with the proposed transition. Bray was by far the most important assistant for Smith to bring. Lets just say that it was a little messy, but it is probably best to not get into that and move on. We are happy, and now we have to make sure we get the DC and OC hires right.”
redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
That's crazy. I wonder why Klein would want to move on from his alma mater. Hopefully we could sway him over here. Would love to replicate what they are doing at KSU.
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
that is a great hire for them. I wonder if Chadwell from Liberty gets snatched up this cycle
when I look at a coaches tenure at a school, I always look what the school was like before he got there. For Cignetti at James Madison, the prior coach was 37-6, going 14-1 twice and 9-4 the year before Cignetti came in. I wouldn't be shocked if that guy gets fired this year from East Carolina. The guy before that was 18-7 over 2 years. He then went on to fail at Texas State and is now DC of Temple. So James Madison won their conference 3 of the 4 years prior to Cignetti arriving. Meaning, Cignetti didn't build anything at James Madison. He did however do a great job maintaining a strong program.
He did better at Elon making a big jump in wins from the prior coach, but was only there 2 years and went 8-4 then 6-5. So is that blowing me away? not really.
At Indiana University Pennsylvania, fun fact, he took over the reigns from Lou Tepper, but of note, his dad was, I assume, a legendary coach there. His dad coached IUP for 20 years, winning the conference 14 times. Tepper actually did a good job. So again, Cignetti built nothing at IUP.
So does he appear to be a good coach? Yes. He has been able to maintain success at good programs (for their level). But coming to a bottom dweller program in a top 2 conference in the nation, that is a HUGE change from what he's done so far. Based on nothing but resume, I'd say mehh.
RedRocksIllini
- Morrison, CO
Can't believe how much I already miss Tom Allen.
I have no big opinion about him or the hire, but I’d say taking the team/school through the transition to FBS and leading them to a 19-4 overall record since jumping levels gets him some points in my book.
lstewart53x3
- Scottsdale, Arizona
Does it matter who coaches Indiana at this point? How often will we even play?
They're somehow worse than we have been, honestly will be interested in how he does. He was a dominant force at JMU, and Indiana is probably the worst P5 job.
reality is FAR more coaches fail than succeed. It is a really difficult business, especially these days with an even more unfair playing field. I can't imagine Indiana football will be near the top of the conference in NIL. They have no real tradition to build on. They local region is highly contested with at least 1 much better program in state, and another program that is probably considered better fighting for the 2nd and 3rd tier recruits. So to succeed at Indiana, you will have to be a really good coach and have some really good coordinators.
Indiana hasn't had a coach leave with a winning record since 1947, wow. At least their basketball program has had some good moments.
They just got a 2 million dollar commitment for NIL
altgeld88
- Arlington, Virginia
Fighter of the Nightman
- Chicago, IL
Without using any statistics or advanced metrics and just remembering watching these games in real time with all of the emotions of a fan ... I would categorize the games like this:
Both Offense and Defense Were Good
W 27-24 at Maryland ... Our best all-around effort of the year?
L 15-13 at #16 Iowa ... Great all-around effort, we just couldn't get it done.
Carried by the Offense
W 27-26 at Minnesota ... Miracle game-winning drive.
W 48-45 vs. Indiana ... No explanation needed.
L 45-43 vs. Northwestern ... No explanation needed.
Carried by the Defense
W 23-17 vs. FAU ... Offense putting up 23 vs. FAU is terrible.
L 30-13 vs. #7 Penn State ... 30 points might seem like a lot, but without FIVE turnovers from the offense, we actually give ourselves a chance in this one...
Both Offense and Defense Were Bad
L 34-23 at Kansas ... Offense had a little Fake Comeback in them, but not a great effort.
L 44-19 at Purdue ... Just terrible.
L 20-7 vs. Nebraska ... Don't care how many points were scored, both looked flat and bad.
N/A
W 30-28 vs. Toledo ... Pick six for the defense and the last drive for the offense. Neither were great overall, though.
L 25-21 vs. Wisconsin ... Just a weird game with Newton being tossed.
One thing that kind of jumps out is that the defense CERTAINLY didn't have linear improvement as the year went on, and I would argue the offense clearly did - even if not as a matter of purely scoring points, it looked more dynamic. We drove down for the PSU game, and I remember being really proud of our defense well into the third quarter vs. a very good Penn State offense. Our offense just kept willing us to have no chance.
mhuml32
- Cincinnati, OH
Klein would be a fun hire. I still prefer to keep Lunney.
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