College Basketball Rules Changes

#26      
College athletics (at least in my very old-school mind) should be about playing sports while pursuing an education, with the education being the primary goal - period.

The problem is it’s not about that to the schools or the NCAA. It’s about money. So why not let the players make it about money too?
 
#27      
Because the schools and the NCAA are not (supposed to be) professional entities. If the NBA and the NFL would step up and establish minor league structures that are real and viable, then athletes coming out of high school would have a choice - pros or college (money or education). It might be a little over-simplistic, but basketball and football players have never had that choice, and I believe it is a large part of the root cause that creates a lot of the ills we see in college athletics in the flagship sports that are associated with the mountains of cash. Just my $0.02 . . .
 
#28      
Because the schools and the NCAA are not (supposed to be) professional entities. If the NBA and the NFL would step up and establish minor league structures that are real and viable, then athletes coming out of high school would have a choice - pros or college (money or education). It might be a little over-simplistic, but basketball and football players have never had that choice, and I believe it is a large part of the root cause that creates a lot of the ills we see in college athletics in the flagship sports that are associated with the mountains of cash. Just my $0.02 . . .


Except, I would counter that the popularity of the respective sports would tank. Who watches college baseball and college hockey? Not too many. I know that you can counter, well, these are still the two most popular sports and they would be fine, but to that, I would reply, well, many watch MLB. So...
 
#29      
I've stated for years let them declare, if undrafted, let them return (1) time.
Offer the scholarship, if said player gets drafted, he/she pays for that scholarship, if not then the athlete truly gets an education paid in exchange for services (revenues) brought to university.
If players are to be paid, a % stipend is paid based solely on the sports in which they play and the revenue it produces. Example: Football/Basketball get a higher proportionate stipend vs say a tennis player?
Let individual athletes make $$$ off their name using the university's name in which they are attending ONLY with university's final approval of said advertising avenues using their likeness and then the university receives a % of revenues generated from that players ventures for copyright purposes etc.,.

Get rid of one and done's, let a kid go pro if he/she wants. Free Enterprise afterall..
 
#30      
Except, I would counter that the popularity of the respective sports would tank. Who watches college baseball and college hockey? Not too many. I know that you can counter, well, these are still the two most popular sports and they would be fine, but to that, I would reply, well, many watch MLB. So...
I would tend to agree on the level of popularity, but I think we underestimate the rabid loyalty of college fans to their teams, especially for football and basketball. We follow Illinois because of our ties to the school, not necessarily to individuals. I love the O&B to the extent that when we lose a recruit, as far as I'm concerned that recruit is dead to me, because they are not wearing O&B. A lot of folks here have much tighter bonds to the state and the high-schoolers that are targets for us, but it comes back to O&B for me, and it always will. If we were playing FCS and were a MAC school or even Div. 2, people would watch. They do today. The differences are in a) the number of fans (a B1G school is going to have maybe 100x almuni and fans versus a CAA school), and smaller venues (meaning smaller revenues for the schools and the NCAA). I think that after a relatively short adjustment period we would be right back where we are today in terms of money flowing through the system, with better (and possibly 'cleaner'?) alternatives for the athletes. I have no data to support any of this, but I certainly enjoy the discussion!
 
#31      
I would tend to agree on the level of popularity, but I think we underestimate the rabid loyalty of college fans to their teams, especially for football and basketball. We follow Illinois because of our ties to the school, not necessarily to individuals. I love the O&B to the extent that when we lose a recruit, as far as I'm concerned that recruit is dead to me, because they are not wearing O&B. A lot of folks here have much tighter bonds to the state and the high-schoolers that are targets for us, but it comes back to O&B for me, and it always will. If we were playing FCS and were a MAC school or even Div. 2, people would watch. They do today. The differences are in a) the number of fans (a B1G school is going to have maybe 100x almuni and fans versus a CAA school), and smaller venues (meaning smaller revenues for the schools and the NCAA). I think that after a relatively short adjustment period we would be right back where we are today in terms of money flowing through the system, with better (and possibly 'cleaner'?) alternatives for the athletes. I have no data to support any of this, but I certainly enjoy the discussion!

So... Here are my questions to you:

Do you watch MLB? Do you watch UI baseball?
 
#32      
So... Here are my questions to you:

Do you watch MLB? Do you watch UI baseball?
WizardBill, I do. I'm a Red Sox fan since birth. I don't watch UI baseball because it's not televised (because admittedly no one wants to pay for it). I agree eyes drive dollars, but I think men's intercollegiate basketball and football are so ingrained into our social fabric that the fans will not abandon it. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I love to go to high school football, basketball, and baseball games . . . I have season tickets to football for my wife's alma mater here in NH (Go Wildcats!), I just finished watching four LLWS games for crying out loud. And if I lived closer, I'd have season tickets for basketball, football, baseball, and hockey (someday soon I hope!) to UI games.

Right now I'm looking for alternatives to the evil Comcast empire, now that I've lost the one lifeline to the O&B that I have, the Big Ten Network :mad:
 
#33      
Right now I'm looking for alternatives to the evil Comcast empire, now that I've lost the one lifeline to the O&B that I have, the Big Ten Network :mad:
I think HULU has the BigTen network on their more expensive offering of $39/month. Can run it through a Roku stick. Was thinking of it as an alternative to cable. You would need unlimited internet bandwidth or it might get expensive.
 
#35      
Have we used the 13 we just got already?

No. What I meant to ask is we just got 9 back here in Aug to use before Aug 2019. So should we now have 13 going forward until next Aug with the new rule change ? Or does that extra 4 OVs start some other time?