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RabidDawgClassic

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I-L-L said:
You know, if Coach U leaves and I hope he doesn't and don't think he will, maybe Chester is set up here. I like where we sit either way.
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Fighter of the Nightman

Fighter of the Nightman
Chicago, IL
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I know everyone just assumes you wouldn't want to be at Penn State, but are we sure Shrewsberry would leave for a job outside the Big Ten and SEC? With the exception of Notre Dame, the gap in financial resources between these two conferences and the ACC, Big East, Pac-12, etc. is just going to continue to grow. Penn State basketball is kind of like Illinois football - people are so used to them being bad and that's (mostly) all they've ever known, so it's hard to envision anything else. However, there really isn't any reason they shouldn't be competitive year in and year out, even with Pitt and Villanova being "favorites" on either side of them. There are still a TON of PSU grads who will hop on the bandwagon if they get good, and you could put together a very decent team just from getting the scraps out of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, coupled with a few nice out-of-state recruits.

I could see him leave for Notre Dame, but Georgetown? I don't know.
 
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RedRocksIllini

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Morrison, CO
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
I know everyone just assumes you wouldn't want to be at Penn State, but are we sure Shrewsberry would leave for a job outside the Big Ten and SEC? With the exception of Notre Dame, the gap in financial resources between these two conferences and the ACC, Big East, Pac-12, etc. is just going to continue to grow. Penn State basketball is kind of like Illinois football - people are so used to them being bad and that's (mostly) all they've ever known, so it's hard to envision anything else. However, there really isn't any reason they shouldn't be competitive year in and year out, even with Pitt and Villanova being "favorites" on either side of them. There are still a TON of PSU grads who will hop on the bandwagon if they get good, and you could put together a very decent team just from getting the scraps out of Pittsburgh and Philadelphia, coupled with a few nice out-of-state recruits.

I could see him leave for Notre Dame, but Georgetown? I don't know.
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Based on an extensive and extremely lazy google search, Ewing is making about $4 mil/year at Georgetown while Micah is making about $2 mil/year (or maybe it's 3?) at Penn State. No idea whether either of those numbers is even remotely correct. Given that neither school is really a public university, they aren't required to publish the salaries.

Even so, I would agree. Penn State to Georgetown seems like a real step in the wrong direction.
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

Fighter of the Nightman
Chicago, IL
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RedRocksIllini said:
Based on an extensive and extremely lazy google search, Ewing is making about $4 mil/year at Georgetown while Micah is making about $2 mil/year (or maybe it's 3?) at Penn State. No idea whether either of those numbers is even remotely correct. Given that neither school is really a public university, they aren't required to publish the salaries.

Even so, I would agree. Penn State to Georgetown seems like a real step in the wrong direction.
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I have just have a weird feeling that PSU basketball is in a similar spot as Auburn/Alabama basketball were not long ago and kind of where Illinois football was in until recently with Bielema. In the first comparison, there is just too much institutional/fan support and money behind football for basketball to be COMPLETELY irrelevant - it's only a matter of time before PSU decides it will invest, and a coach showing some promise and building some excitement might lead to that?

That leads to the second comparison with Illinois, where you might have looked at what we payed Zook or Beckman and assumed that we were not the type of school that would pony up the big bucks, yet we did for Lovie and even more for Bielema. Schools like Illinois and Penn State have donors and fans with a LOT of money, and it's the job of a good AD to direct it toward building up the athletic programs. Whitman accomplished this with football in a way we hadn't seen in a very long time (I remember growing up thinking of Illinois as so "cheap" and "small time" with football; SO glad that has changed!), and the same could be accomplished at Penn State.

The one caveat is I don't know how many PSU football fans have different basketball teams they root for. I assume that number in Philadelphia (PSU football/Villanova basketball) is pretty huge, and I wouldn't be surprised with a small number of bandwagon PSU football/Pitt basketball fans in Pittsburgh ... that might cap their ceiling. That is one thing Illinois is fortunate to not have to deal with, as while Illini football fans were quite apathetic when we were bad (and getting them back on board is still a process, to be sure), we aren't dealing with a bunch of people who are, say, Illini basketball/Notre Dame football fans. Our football fan base is there for the taking if we give them something to root for, and I am not knowledgeable enough to say if PSU basketball has that same untapped potential?
 
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Illini in Italy

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RedRocksIllini said:
Based on an extensive and extremely lazy google search, Ewing is making about $4 mil/year at Georgetown while Micah is making about $2 mil/year (or maybe it's 3?) at Penn State. No idea whether either of those numbers is even remotely correct. Given that neither school is really a public university, they aren't required to publish the salaries.

Even so, I would agree. Penn State to Georgetown seems like a real step in the wrong direction.
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Penn State is a public university, and is the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's sole land-grant institution and its largest public university.
 
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RedRocksIllini

RedRocksIllini
Morrison, CO
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Fighter of the Nightman

Fighter of the Nightman
Chicago, IL
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mattcoldagelli said:
I'm very much in the "it counts probably even more than we know to be in the B1G or SEC right now" camp, but if you are surveying the rest of college sports, there are few entities on firmer footing and more comfortable in their own skin than Big East basketball.
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Yeah, that's true. If you're a hoops guy at heart and Villanova or Georgetown or another traditional power with good fan support opens up, you can at least know that you'll get a disproportionate amount of the athletic war chest compared to a school with football. What I would absolutely never do in today's world is leave a "historically inferior" job like Minnesota (seriously, WTF, it should not be that hard to be competitive there...) for a "historically superior" job like Oklahoma State. Being in the Big Ten outweighs whatever perceived prestige bump you get, and it's just a different world today. Besides, Baylor Basketball, Clemson Football and a host of others in the 21st Century have proven that a lack of history/tradition doesn't matter if you get the right guy.
 
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