College Sports (Basketball)

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lstewart53x3
New Creation said:
But this is still year 6 for him... including a redshirt year... what am I missing?
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The argument as @the juiceman cometh has touched on is that TKR has had 5 seasons. One redshirt year + 4 playing years. But had the rules been the way they are now, he would not have redshirted. So he lost a year of eligibility due to the old rules.
 
#56      
sacraig
ChiTown said:
This excuse is just plain laughable….
https://twitter.com/x/status/2112589769309814868
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#59      
the juiceman cometh
wc_illini said:
He played four seasons (2022-23, 23-24, 24-25, and 25-26) after redshirting 2021-22. He argued that he would not have redshirted if he had been under the current rules, so he should be entitled to a 5th year
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lstewart53x3 said:
The argument as @the juiceman cometh has touched on is that TKR has had 5 seasons. One redshirt year + 4 playing years. But had the rules been the way they are now, he would not have redshirted. So he lost a year of eligibility due to the old rules.
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Just to be clear, that is in fact the argument to my understanding. But I do think that argument is dumb.
 
#61      
Bucktown
lstewart53x3 said:
The argument as @the juiceman cometh has touched on is that TKR has had 5 seasons. One redshirt year + 4 playing years. But had the rules been the way they are now, he would not have redshirted. So he lost a year of eligibility due to the old rules.
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And, if he wouldn’t have redshirted, he would have lost his eligibility last year and already be playing in Europe or in the G league. Either way he shouldn’t be allowed to play.
 
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Kernal12
#66      
SkyysNotFalling
Funny Dennis Gates said he built his roster with substantially less money than his peers yet is in the same tier as Miami, Houston, Gonzaga, MSU etc… top 30 in spending at minimum. Get outta here buddy.
 
#67      
Bilbo
So good to see! Let's stay there. I saw something where Illini basketball pulls top 3-5 in eyeballs per basketball programs.
 
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ChiefGritty
#69      
New Creation
HoopsterMan said:
www.cbssports.com

College basketball's NIL arms race, from $5M to $25M+: Breaking down roster values, spending tiers for 2026-27

CBS Sports contacted more than 100-plus sources to discover how much each power-conference hoops program invested this season
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com

Illini playing with the big boys.
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  • The Big Ten would be No. 2 if not for having one-third of its league limited to less than $10 million in spending in men's basketball. While some programs have definitely improved their year-over-year standing relative to where they ranked nationally a year ago, there's still a lot of places that are hitting a fiscal ceiling that could be reflected in the year-end standings."
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#70      
jimbo72
Isn't Trey kaughman Ren like 30 years old? Woof. If Kansas wins 3 court cases they will be legit. Bill Self looks skinny and not as red as a tomatoe. Awesome, keep thinking we'll see him drop on court while coaching.
 
#71      
Illinifrank67
So imagine you’re a doctor, you’ve spent years perfecting your craft. As such you have a very marketable skill and you’re highly compensated because of that. Now say a trade organization is established and it decides you can only practice for ten years because “it’s better for the medical system as a whole” but has no proof that it’s better, other than “trust us it is.” Obviously that organization would be sued into oblivion. The NCAA is about to be sued into oblivion.
 
#72      
Illini in Italy
Illinifrank67 said:
So imagine you’re a doctor, you’ve spent years perfecting your craft. As such you have a very marketable skill and you’re highly compensated because of that. Now say a trade organization is established and it decides you can only practice for ten years because “it’s better for the medical system as a whole” but has no proof that it’s better, other than “trust us it is.” Obviously that organization would be sued into oblivion. The NCAA is about to be sued into oblivion.
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There are literally dozens of occupations in the US that have age caps - airline pilots, air traffic controllers, DEI and FBI agents, border patrol agents, military officers, certain state and local police officers, the list goes on. Federal courts have generally held that the NCAA can set eligibility requirements (i.e. 5 for 5), but are still subject to anti-trust considerations. State courts have fluctuated state-by-state and have favored athletes more, although most injections have been stayed pending appeal. The NCAA is already living in court effectively with all the lawsuits around the country. They will prevail in the end on this matter IMO, as long as they don't run afoul of the Sherman Act.
 
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Calvin
Illini in Italy said:
There are literally dozens of occupations in the US that have age caps - airline pilots, air traffic controllers, DEI and FBI agents, border patrol agents, military officers, certain state and local police officers, the list goes on. Federal courts have generally held that the NCAA can set eligibility requirements (i.e. 5 for 5), but are still subject to anti-trust considerations. State courts have fluctuated state-by-state and have favored athletes more, although most injections have been stayed pending appeal. The NCAA is already living in court effectively with all the lawsuits around the country. They will prevail in the end on this matter IMO, as long as they don't run afoul of the Sherman Act.
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Legal analysis I've read suggests that eligibility is the one area the NCAA has generally not lost cases on, provided it's applied consistently and equally. 5 for 5 would probably hold up if applied to everyone.

Fun fact (according to a quick search anyway): The NCAA spends about $60 million a year on legal fees.
 
#74      
ChiefGritty
Calvin said:
Legal analysis I've read suggests that eligibility is the one area the NCAA has generally not lost cases on, provided it's applied consistently and equally. 5 for 5 would probably hold up if applied to everyone.

Fun fact (according to a quick search anyway): The NCAA spends about $60 million a year on legal fees.
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An antitrust exemption (antitrust law being what is being violated in @Illinifrank67 's hypothetical) solves this problem once and for all for the NCAA, which is why they are pulling out all the stops to get one via the Protect College Sports Act.

We the people via our elected representatives have them over a barrel, we could roll back the horrible injuries our beloved pastimes have suffered in the past decade or so as our price for handing the NCAA back the reins of control.

I wish more people would see it that way. If the NCAA wants its monopoly back, it should be forced to give us college sports back the way we all loved it.
 
#75      
RabidDawgClassic
ChiefGritty said:
I wish more people would see it that way. If the NCAA wants its monopoly back, it should be forced to give us college sports back the way we all loved tit.
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We loved Illinois football being an inept afterthought and Illinois basketball challenging for a final four spot once every 20 years? I won’t argue that the current system sustainable, but both illinois football and basketball have benefitted greatly from the leveling, albeit uneven, of the financial field.
 
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