Conference Realignment

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Dan

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Welcome to the Conference Realignment/Media Rights thread.

Big Ten signs new media rights deal (link).

USC & UCLA to join the Big Ten in 2024.

Texas & Oklahoma to join the SEC in 2024.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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Don't get the P12 interest in either CSU or SMU. Nobody outside of Ft Collins is interested in CSU and nobody outside of Dallas has any interest in SMU.

I get SDSU, but they need to find another candidate.
 
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GrayGhost77

Centennial, CO
Don't get the P12 interest in either CSU or SMU. Nobody outside of Ft Collins is interested in CSU and nobody outside of Dallas has any interest in SMU.

I get SDSU, but they need to find another candidate.
Not true. Living in the Denver metro there's almost as many CSU grads in the Front Range as CU grads. There's 5 million people from Colo Springs to Ft Collins. Not insignificant. Half the people I work with are CSU grads and die hard Rams fans.
 
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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
If this really goes down, its not far fetched to think Oregon and Washington and maybe Cal and Stanford go to the Big Ten asking for even half shares of the media deal or even less to join.
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
If this really goes down, its not far fetched to think Oregon and Washington and maybe Cal and Stanford go to the Big Ten asking for even half shares of the media deal or even less to join.
The Big Ten will never go for half shares. It sets a precedent of placing certain teams over others, which is what ruins the dynamics wherever Texas goes.

The equity angle is too important for the Big Ten to give up, even if the new schools are asking for that.
 
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IlliniSaluki

IL metro east burbs of St. Louis
The Big Ten will never go for half shares. It sets a precedent of placing certain teams over others, which is what ruins the dynamics wherever Texas goes.

The equity angle is too important for the Big Ten to give up, even if the new schools are asking for that.
You do realize Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland all never got full shares when they first joined the conference, right? I believe it took until the next media rights deal after joining to get full shares. I am not even sure if Maryland is going to be getting full share yet at the start of this new deal since they actually borrowed money from the B1G to get out of their ACC deal.

EDIT: I just looked it up, Nebraska didn't start earning full shares of the media rights deal until 6 years. Maryland and Rutgers are on the same path. Unlike those deals UCLA & USC coming in with a brand new rights package will earn Full shares from the start.


"In order to remain competitive with the rest of the conference while awaiting its full membership, Rutgers took advances on its future distributions as well as a $38 million loan from the league; the Terrapins also took out loans from the league. As a result, Rutgers owed $48 million to the league as of 2020, while Maryland owed nearly $120.5 million, per The Athletic.

Rutgers is not going to receive a full share of its revenue distribution until 2027, according to a report commissioned by the school to College Sports Solutions that was released in 2019."
 
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redwingillini11

White and Sixth
North Aurora
The Big Ten will never go for half shares. It sets a precedent of placing certain teams over others, which is what ruins the dynamics wherever Texas goes.

The equity angle is too important for the Big Ten to give up, even if the new schools are asking for that.
I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.

However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.


So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.
 
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I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.

However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.


So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.

This is what would make sense, not having these schools permanently at half shares or whatever, but for a period of time like Nebby, Maryland and Rutgers.

That said, there would be risk guaranteeing them a full share after some time period, as it would/could reduce everyone's share at some point. So, that leaves us with the same conundrum, meaning that even starting teams at a partial share, these teams could not be guaranteed a full share, unless everyone was willing to risk having their full share be smaller that it would/could have been without the new additions.

Unless there are some crazy talks going on with networks, looking at different scenarios of adding teams and making a super conference that is worth that much more then the pieces, starting teams at a partial share just kicks the can down the road.

That all said, it it would be cool to see the B1G go all the way to 24 adding CA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, FSU, Miami, UNC and GT or Virginia. Well, it could be cool or a total mess with divisions that put us right back where we are, with the exception of some crossover games.
 
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IlliniKat91

Chicago, IL
I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.

However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.


So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.
I'm with you now. I thought it was that they were "borrowing" against their share when they came in.
 
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