Conference Realignment
Former Pac-12 coaches concerned about league's future amid ongoing issues: 'They're teetering on the brink'
The conference's inability to secure a new media rights deal is raising alarms
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The Galloping Ghost
- Washington, DC
My brain just melted watching that spotter. What an absolute a$$hole.
I remember @GrayGhost77 not even needing a spotter for 3 plates. I was just there for moral support.
Gee, what a pal. Lol
GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Lol wish I could still hit that. Old joints say "no mas!".
Haha. Even my young joints said "no gracias"
InDaAZ
- Eugene, Oregon
Username + video = raises questions, haha!
Some dispatches from the PAC-12. Lots of positive talk from PAC-12 officials.
www.johncanzano.com
Canzano: Pac-12 officially exploring four expansion schools
Oregon remains "way on board" with Pac-12, per source.
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Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
Im surprised they are all that interested in Colorado St. I figure they must have info that U of Colorado is quietly flirting with the B12.Some dispatches from the PAC-12. Lots of positive talk from PAC-12 officials.
Canzano: Pac-12 officially exploring four expansion schools
Oregon remains "way on board" with Pac-12, per source.
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now the interest in Colo St makes sense
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GrayGhost77
- Centennial, CO
Not true. Living in the Denver metro there's almost as many CSU grads in the Front Range as CU grads. There's 5 million people from Colo Springs to Ft Collins. Not insignificant. Half the people I work with are CSU grads and die hard Rams fans.
Some dispatches from the PAC-12. Lots of positive talk from PAC-12 officials.
Canzano: Pac-12 officially exploring four expansion schools
Oregon remains "way on board" with Pac-12, per source.
Their positive talk screams "the plane's not going down we have one engine left!"
Big 12 Reengaged In Talks With Utah, Other Pac-12 Schools
Reports from The Athletic indicate that the Big 12 has had recent talks with Utah, Arizona, Arizona State and Colorado from the Pac-12.
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redwingillini11
- North Aurora
If this really goes down, its not far fetched to think Oregon and Washington and maybe Cal and Stanford go to the Big Ten asking for even half shares of the media deal or even less to join.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
The Big Ten will never go for half shares. It sets a precedent of placing certain teams over others, which is what ruins the dynamics wherever Texas goes.
The equity angle is too important for the Big Ten to give up, even if the new schools are asking for that.
IlliniSaluki
- IL metro east burbs of St. Louis
You do realize Nebraska, Rutgers and Maryland all never got full shares when they first joined the conference, right? I believe it took until the next media rights deal after joining to get full shares. I am not even sure if Maryland is going to be getting full share yet at the start of this new deal since they actually borrowed money from the B1G to get out of their ACC deal.
EDIT: I just looked it up, Nebraska didn't start earning full shares of the media rights deal until 6 years. Maryland and Rutgers are on the same path. Unlike those deals UCLA & USC coming in with a brand new rights package will earn Full shares from the start.
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Hereās why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
www.nj.com
"In order to remain competitive with the rest of the conference while awaiting its full membership, Rutgers took advances on its future distributions as well as a $38 million loan from the league; the Terrapins also took out loans from the league. As a result, Rutgers owed $48 million to the league as of 2020, while Maryland owed nearly $120.5 million, per The Athletic.
Rutgers is not going to receive a full share of its revenue distribution until 2027, according to a report commissioned by the school to College Sports Solutions that was released in 2019."
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redwingillini11
- North Aurora
I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.
However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Hereās why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
www.nj.com
So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.
I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.
However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Hereās why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.
This is what would make sense, not having these schools permanently at half shares or whatever, but for a period of time like Nebby, Maryland and Rutgers.
That said, there would be risk guaranteeing them a full share after some time period, as it would/could reduce everyone's share at some point. So, that leaves us with the same conundrum, meaning that even starting teams at a partial share, these teams could not be guaranteed a full share, unless everyone was willing to risk having their full share be smaller that it would/could have been without the new additions.
Unless there are some crazy talks going on with networks, looking at different scenarios of adding teams and making a super conference that is worth that much more then the pieces, starting teams at a partial share just kicks the can down the road.
That all said, it it would be cool to see the B1G go all the way to 24 adding CA, Stanford, Oregon, Washington, FSU, Miami, UNC and GT or Virginia. Well, it could be cool or a total mess with divisions that put us right back where we are, with the exception of some crossover games.
IlliniKat91
- Chicago, IL
I'm with you now. I thought it was that they were "borrowing" against their share when they came in.I get that and I would be terrified of a precedent that puts us at risk for receiving less than a full share in the future.
However, Nebraska, Maryland, and Rutgers did not receive full shares initially when they joined. They each had to wait 6 years to get the full share, and then it seems that Rutgers and Maryland took out loans against future payments when they joined.
USC, UCLA will receive full Big Ten revenue share before Rutgers: Hereās why
Big Ten Commissioner Kevin Warren discussed why USC, UCLA got different treatment than previous expansion teams entering the league.
So what I'm saying is that Oregon and Washington would be begging for such a set up, even if it is just half or less, for perhaps the length of this media rights deal, with the idea that at the next deal everyone should be getting full shares.
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