Conference Realignment
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mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
What is dead may never die!
Joel Goodson
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the noise to signal ratio on this is overwhelming. It'll be interesting to see if the BIG's no dilution stance holds. guessing not. one thing's for sure, I feel a whole lot better with Petitti in charge, instead of Warren.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The conventional wisdom in this space is so bizarre, and this is a wonderfully succinct summation of it.
1. Enthusiasm for the B1G expanding further
2. The assumption that they have to and will, it's a hidden secret inevitability
3. The whole thing personalized into Conference Commissioner Mean Girls
4. Sideswiping Kevin Warren even though he personally orchestrated the Big Ten's red wedding for the conference system that put us in the financial and visibility catbird seat.
This goes way, way beyond college football, but the Kevin Warren thing is a perfect example of how the narratives that formed when we were all stuck inside on the computer during the darkest days of the Covid lockdown will dominate the internet forever no matter how much the reality outside changes.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
with the impending implosion of the PAC12 things may have to move faster than expected. i know many won't be excited about stanford but if they get the B1G ND then it makes sense. All four are AAU.
If/when it comes time to raid the ACC:
would personally love to see Pitt in the B1G and would create an instate rivalry with PSU but just can't see it. Clemson makes too much sense for the SEC. if FSU/Miami aren't happening, Virginia and Pitt would be next up for me. FSU is only non-AAU
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ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Actually the full Conference Realignment post bingo would be:
1. Treating further B1G expansion as desirable and inevitable
2. Conference Commissioner Mean Girls
3. Treating academic rankings as central to the process (bonus points for referencing the AAU)
4. Reference to local market sizes
5. Besides #4, no mention whatsoever of the TV networks or contracts
6. Talking about the ACC grant of rights as if it can be hand-waved away
Today should be a good day for these, I believe in you guys.
1. Treating further B1G expansion as desirable and inevitable
2. Conference Commissioner Mean Girls
3. Treating academic rankings as central to the process (bonus points for referencing the AAU)
4. Reference to local market sizes
5. Besides #4, no mention whatsoever of the TV networks or contracts
6. Talking about the ACC grant of rights as if it can be hand-waved away
Today should be a good day for these, I believe in you guys.
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
Ha, right? There are some things to be peeved at Kevin Warren about, expansion/realignment is extremely not it.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
The network tripleheader was an obvious coup at the time and just keeps looking better and better.
Not to say that the B1G is not exposed to the collapse of the cable bubble, we are, the whole sports industry is, but when you look at the creation of the BTN and the structure of the new media deal, the conference has had really impeccable timing in terms of cannonballing into the cable pool and then subtly withdrawing from it.
the national
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redwingillini11
White and Sixth
- North Aurora
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Joel Goodson
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what? he picked up the phone and said "yes". doesn't qualify as 4D chess
Mr. Tibbs
- southeast DuPage
correct
he’s as responsible for those two schools coming in as Harry Truman is for making the atom bomb
mattcoldagelli
- The Transfer Portal with Do Not Contact Tag
It's an absurd supposition that the commissioner of the conference USC and UCLA were joining did nothing but go "Big gulps, huh? Well, alright!"
Even an on-its-face popular and beneficial move requires management of the various stakeholders needed to make it a reality.
Even when buy-in is achieved, there's incredible legwork to be done to get it from point A to point B without a leak sending the whole thing sideways.
Even an on-its-face popular and beneficial move requires management of the various stakeholders needed to make it a reality.
Even when buy-in is achieved, there's incredible legwork to be done to get it from point A to point B without a leak sending the whole thing sideways.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Kevin Warren: Irrelevant patsy bobbing along the tide of history
George Klivakoff and Brett Yormark: Promethean masters of the destiny of all that they survey
Pac-12 to present media deal on Tuesday
Sources tell WildcatAuthority.com that the Pac-12 will finally present a deal on Tuesday. Read on for the latest.
247sports.com
"The expectation within the conference is that it would be a major surprise if anything worth signing was presented. It is also expected that the deal will be heavy streaming or even possibly completely streaming with Apple and the ability to license with ESPN for some games.
The number is expected to be as low as $20 million per school with the belief that Kliavkoff will also present a possibility for more money based on certain aspects like ratings and ESPN payment. It is unlikely a deal will be good enough for the conference to agree on and that will likely lead to more discussions amongst certain schools and other conferences."
Joel Goodson
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lol
and just to be clear, am not suggesting that Warren did squat. of course he helped the process along. it's casting him as a conference realignment Jedi master that I'm objecting to. WRT to the new TV contracts, he did great.
Klivakoff was handed a turd sandwich by Scott. But that doesn't absolve him. Big mistakes were made.
Yormark is a hot air cheerleader, of the highest order. He's a latter day Chauncey Gardener.
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Joel Goodson
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Regardless of what the LA schools (don't) want, I'll be very surprised if Washington and Oregon aren't invited soon. It will definitely be a partial share deal. And I'll be shocked if they don't accept virtually immediately.
ChiefGritty
- Chicago, IL
Temporarily or permanently?
If temporarily, why would the B1G do that? We've now entered a world in which Rutgers and Maryland get to dilute everybody else's money forevermore, why do that again?
If permanently, why would Illinois accept that? If that door gets opened, we will end up being pushed through it, as will Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Iowa, everyone knows "eat what you kill" means "Michigan and Ohio State get all the money".
And of course, Conference Realignment bingo: what does Fox think?
Joel Goodson
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no idea. guessing the contracts will lay out milestones for increasing their shares.
keep taking the sunny side of the street, Mr. Dystopia
This is the slippery slope we all want to avoid.
Permanent partial shares will eventually lead to unequal revenue distribution, and unless there is some miraculous turn for Illinois, we will be on the short end of that stick, along with Northwestern, Purdue, Indiana, Rutgers, Maryland, Iowa, etc.
No clue if this is even remotely legit, but the amount of smoke is crazy.
hooraybeer
- Pittsburgh, PA
well if gary says so it must be true
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