Conference Realignment

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pruman91

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spotter said:
Nothing screams B1G tradition like playing for the conference championship in Las Vegas.
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Hopefully , if the report is accurate (doubtful) , that the mantra of what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas , still is the course of action.........

After this embarrassing Northwestern fiasco the B$G2 needs no more sordid headlines.....
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

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Chicago, IL
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ptgrd23 said:
My votes for B10 FB championship locations

1. Soldier Field
2. Lucas Oil field (Colts)
3. Heinz field
4. Lambeau Field
5. Ford Field
5. SoFi Stadium
6. Rose Bowl????
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I highly doubt they will give it to outdoor Solider Field. A new Bears indoor stadium in Arlington Heights would get it in a heartbeat, though.

I also don't think Heinz Field (Pittsburgh), Lambeau (Green Bay) or even Ford Field (Detroit) stand much of a chance. While we are having the BTT in Minneapolis soon, they usually reserve these things for a location that can draw a huge crowd WITHOUT that market's most popular team(s) still in contention. For example, while the Illinois/Penn State game at the United Center this year was 90% Illini fans, the BTT continued to draw big crowds once we got eliminated. Compare that to Lambeau, where I imagine the lack of Wisconsin SERIOUSLY limits the number of people willing to travel to Green Bay to sit in the freezing December weather to watch Big Ten football. I could be wrong, but I think we should stick to areas with large Big Ten alumni bases or central locations. Chicago doesn't rely on Illinois, New York doesn't rely on Rutgers, LA wouldn't rely solely on USC/UCLA, Lucas Oil definitely doesn't rely on Indiana/Purdue, etc.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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they wont have it in an outdoor stadium in the traditonal B1G footprint

also doubtful its ever played at the Rose Bowl as long as that UCLA's home field
 
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BretMyBeachHouse

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Lots of great commentary here.

After reading through this, quite frankly, I'd love to see B1G just eliminate the championship game. Play at least 9 games, perhaps 10. possible ties for championship, and plenty of unfairness. But teams play hard all year in football to get a coveted bye. Now you get an extra game that doesn't impact your place in the playoffs. Just not worth it in my opinion.
 
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Calvin

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DeonThomas said:
The so-called "Championship Game" is essentially worthless starting in 2024.

-- 18 teams (at least) will be in the Big Ten conference
-- It's possible that we'll have as many as five teams at 12-0 / 11-1 /10-2 in the regular season
-- In fact, it's feasible that four teams could finish at 8-1 or 9-1 in the league; how do you really break that tie?
-- We'll probably have 3, 4 or even 5 Big 10 teams in contention for the 12-team national playoff
-- The loser of the Big Ten Championship game could (potentially) lower its stock by playing in, and losing, the title game

Yes, that 13th game will certainly draw viewership and $$$$ for the league/teams, but perhaps at the expense of costing the regular season runner-up a spot in the 12-team national playoff. I can foresee a 10-3 Illini squad just missing the CFP playoff, whereas that same team at 10-2 team might have received an invitation:

* 2-1 non-conference record (with an OT loss at unranked Duke)
* 8-1 record in the Big Ten, but winning the tiebreaker to finish #2 in the conference (with a home loss to unranked Michigan State as the only regular season blemish), followed by a 52-16 blow-out loss to Oregon in the Big Ten championship

Instead of a championship game, I'd rather just accept my invitation to the playoff!!!
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I have to agree. When there were only 4 teams from 5 power conferences (or theoretically more), another quality game made a lot of sense. With 18 teams and the concentration within the SEC, BIG, and to a lesser extent the Big12, the top two are most definitely going to be in the playoff already. The downside of injuries or losing starts to look pretty bad. Seems to me they'd need to go to divisions or some format that forces the conf schedule to do the heavy lifting. Playing for seeding is not what fans want.
 
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IlliniKrush

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Mr. Tibbs said:
Vegas makes way more sense than Sofi or the Rose Bowl or Indy .

If & when the new Bears stadium is built - then that would be a natural to alternate with Vegas

Vegas would be a natural for the BTT also , but something tells me there are already other tourneys there the same time
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I would bet a lot of Iowa players would be excited to play in Vegas
 
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Kramerica Industries

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Greenville, SC
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IlliniKrush said:
I would bet a lot of Iowa players would be excited to play in Vegas
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#910      

IlliniFaninHoosierLand

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MWC awaiting Stanford and Cal/ACC decision before making next move: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... l-stanford

Among the scenarios that could happen (some of which have already been mentioned):
-Stanford and Cal to the ACC; Oregon State and Wazzu to the MWC
-AAC adds 4 remaining Pac-12 schools
-Cal and Stanford go independent or join another P5 conference in football, join the MWC for all other sports
-Cal and Stanford become full fledged members of the MWC (this is considered the long-shot option that they only do if the process really drags out; main issue would be the academic standards discrepancy between those two and the rest of the MWC)
-Pac-12/MWC merger (How this would be structured would be extremely complicated)
-MWC dissolves with all the current MWC joining the Pac-12 (While there would be no buyout for the MWC schools, this is considered a nuclear option as 9 of the MWC schools would have to vote in favor of dissolving the conference; Pac-12 would also have to guarantee a media rights deal for the MWC schools better than what the MWC currently has)
 
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spotter

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If the ATLANTIC Coast Conference adds two schools that TOUCH and PACIFIC Ocean, they will be universally laughed at.
 
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Serious Late

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IlliniFaninHoosierLand said:
MWC awaiting Stanford and Cal/ACC decision before making next move: https://www.espn.com/college-sports/sto ... l-stanford

Among the scenarios that could happen (some of which have already been mentioned):
-Stanford and Cal to the ACC; Oregon State and Wazzu to the MWC
-AAC adds 4 remaining Pac-12 schools
-Cal and Stanford go independent or join another P5 conference in football, join the MWC for all other sports
-Cal and Stanford become full fledged members of the MWC (this is considered the long-shot option that they only do if the process really drags out; main issue would be the academic standards discrepancy between those two and the rest of the MWC)
-Pac-12/MWC merger (How this would be structured would be extremely complicated)
-MWC dissolves with all the current MWC joining the Pac-12 (While there would be no buyout for the MWC schools, this is considered a nuclear option as 9 of the MWC schools would have to vote in favor of dissolving the conference; Pac-12 would also have to guarantee a media rights deal for the MWC schools better than what the MWC currently has)
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As a UNM grad (MBA), I can't believe how well the Mountain West is standing right now. Kept SDSU, great chance to add Oregon St/Washington St.
 
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Mr. Tibbs

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Former NFL Executive Has Bold Prediction For Future Of The NCAA​


most of us already know this
 
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DeonThomas

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South Carolina
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ptgrd23 said:
My votes for B10 FB championship locations

1. Soldier Field
2. Lucas Oil field (Colts)
3. Heinz field
4. Lambeau Field
5. Ford Field
5. SoFi Stadium
6. Rose Bowl????
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Love those choices, particularly #1, #2 and #4!!

Soldier Field might have a capacity issue, however. I recall attending the Illini vs. USF game a few years back. Believe there were fewer than 15,000 of us at the game.

/s
 
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Fighter of the Nightman

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Chicago, IL
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Fighter of the Nightman said:
TBF, I think we drew much better (though not a sellout) for Washington a few years before that.
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EDIT: Looks like a pretty good crowd!

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According to Wikipedia, it was a paid attendance of 47,312 or about 77% of capacity. That picture is a great example of how you don't really need to get anywhere THAT close to a sellout for it to "look full enough" and provide a decent atmosphere.

I still don't think they would ever have the Big Ten Championship Game outdoors in the Midwest, though.
 
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ChiefGritty

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Chicago, IL
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Navy_illini said:
www.yahoo.com

REPORT: Dollar figure finally emerges on significant ESPN deal Pac-12 rejected

John Canzano reports the #Pac12 presidents rejected a 2022 ESPN deal for $30M per school, competitive with the #Big12.
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Turning down 30 million per school to go after 50 million makes me wonder if the schools that left knew if that offer couldn’t be matched they could get it if they left
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It's very clear that Klivakoff never had a chance.

8 of his 12 members are now where they wanted to be.
 
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Battle89

Battle89
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Navy_illini said:
www.yahoo.com

REPORT: Dollar figure finally emerges on significant ESPN deal Pac-12 rejected

John Canzano reports the #Pac12 presidents rejected a 2022 ESPN deal for $30M per school, competitive with the #Big12.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

Turning down 30 million per school to go after 50 million makes me wonder if the schools that left knew if that offer couldn’t be matched they could get it if they left
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Does someone at Yahoo think that is a Washington coach speaking? Trying to understand why a Wisconsin coach is in a Pac-12 article (and it looks like Alvarez to me, which means Yahoo took the oldest and cheapest stock photo possible). I suppose it's for the prominent ESPN logo on the camera, which does relate to the story. Still looks dumb to me.
 
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TentakilRex

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mhuml32

mhuml32
Cincinnati, OH
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This is extremely small potatoes and a different flavor than what we have been discussing: Will Ohio State v. Michigan stay in the final week of the year? Lots of tradition holding that game in place but expanded playoff and diluted value of winning that game this late into the season makes me wonder if momentum will build to push it earlier in the year. If you're guaranteed a playoff spot, or both teams are, why not just rest your starters?
 
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