Cubs 2023 Season

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champaignchris

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Steele just passed 200 career innings as a MLBer. 201 now. Has a 3.28 ERA.

Developing a nice home grown starter from a mid-round draft pick was the missing ingredient from the Theo era. A decade’s worth of being unable to develop home grown pitching made long term sustainability impossible.

Being able to count on 8 quality IP a week out of the pen from the combination of Thompson and Alzolay - 2 more home grown guys - is also very nice.
 
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ChiefGritty

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champaignchris said:
Steele just passed 200 career innings as a MLBer. 201 now. Has a 3.28 ERA.

Developing a nice home grown starter from a mid-round draft pick was the missing ingredient from the Theo era. A decade’s worth of being unable to develop home grown pitching made long term sustainability impossible.

Being able to count on 8 quality IP a week out of the pen from the combination of Thompson and Alzolay - 2 more home grown guys - is also very nice.
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Steele WAS a mid round pick of the Theo era.

Same draft as Kyle Schwarber, a round ahead of Dylan Cease.
 
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champaignchris

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ChiefGritty said:
Steele WAS a mid round pick of the Theo era.

Same draft as Kyle Schwarber, a round ahead of Dylan Cease.
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I know he was a Theo acquisition. I was saying that those Theo teams weren’t getting contributions from cost-controlled homegrown pitching, and that’s why those Cubs weren’t able to sustain their winning.

Steele is the only amateur draft pick or IFA from 9 years under Theo to hit 200 IP with the Cubs. Alzolay and Thompson are close behind him. Godley, Blackburn and - of course - Cease have all done it with other teams.

The biggest indictment of the Theo-era pitching drafting and development is how little is left in the pipeline from his time here. Pretty much all the top Cubs pitching prospects were acquired by Hoyer.
 
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ChiefGritty

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champaignchris said:
I know he was a Theo acquisition. I was saying that those Theo teams weren’t getting contributions from cost-controlled homegrown pitching, and that’s why those Cubs weren’t able to sustain their winning.

Steele is the only amateur draft pick or IFA from 9 years under Theo to hit 200 IP with the Cubs. Alzolay and Thompson are close behind him. Godley, Blackburn and - of course - Cease have all done it with other teams.

The biggest indictment of the Theo-era pitching drafting and development is how little is left in the pipeline from his time here. Pretty much all the top Cubs pitching prospects were acquired by Hoyer.
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All true, though the major draft resources were used on hitters to remarkably good effect.
 
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champaignchris

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Shane Walsh said:
The Cubs are good this year.... right? Is this for real?
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Define “good.” They’re certainly better.

I still think the bottom third of the line up could be scary bad and that they might need to bring up some of the kids making noise at AAA.

I don’t like how undefined the back end of the bullpen is right now. There’s a lot of guys who *could* get the job done, but little proven record of doing so. And it’s unbalanced. The only lefty in the pen has pitched a grand total of 1 inning due to injury.

But all of my reservations could be fixed via internal options. There are some really fun bats and left handed relief options at AAA.
 
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Emerson Bigguns

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champaignchris said:
Define “good.” They’re certainly better.

I still think the bottom third of the line up could be scary bad and that they might need to bring up some of the kids making noise at AAA.

I don’t like how undefined the back end of the bullpen is right now. There’s a lot of guys who *could* get the job done, but little proven record of doing so. And it’s unbalanced. The only lefty in the pen has pitched a grand total of 1 inning due to injury.

But all of my reservations could be fixed via internal options. There are some really fun bats and left handed relief options at AAA.
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Only one lefty, but Leiter Jr. is a rare righty who has a lower Batting Average Against, and higher K% facing lefties than righties.

One of the things Jed has consistently been able to do is cobble together a respectable bullpen. I think Hottovy is a heck of a pitching coach.
 
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Shane Walsh said:
The Cubs are good this year.... right? Is this for real?
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They are better as we have a solid top of the lineup and we have a solid pitching staff. Players are buying in to What management is selling. We have a solid middle with Nico and Dansby which saves runs. Bellinger is playing to his 2019 ability and Wisdom is seeing the ball and hitting the ball all over the field. I said we are a contender to win the division and Milwaukee does not scare me.
 
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Shane Walsh

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Cynthiana, Kentucky
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Did you see that number under the capital H?
 
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bdutts

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Who are these guys? Nearly a month in and I'm shocked as to how well they are playing. My prediction of 74 wins isn't aging well. However, it's still early...
 
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