DC Bobby Hauck out at Illinois

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The way I interpreted it is that the situation obviously needed to be dealt with and handled differently, Bielema had one vision of the changes that needed to be made, Hauck (who remember is an even more experienced head coach than Bielema is) came on his own with a different vision of the changes to make, and they were so misaligned that it was better to just make a clean break.

I don't think Hauck just up and quit, I don't think Bielema even suggested as much today, he kept saying "there was no point", whatever Hauck wanted to do going forward just wasn't acceptable to Bert.
I think it’s more that instituting a completely new defense with a scant budget to get the necessary players to execute it is extremely difficult and doing it under high pressure and scrutiny to get it done in one offseason was just way more to bite off than Hauck was prepared for. He knew it and so did Bret. I think it’s as simple as that. Just a near impossible situation
 
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The way I interpreted it is that the situation obviously needed to be dealt with and handled differently, Bielema had one vision of the changes that needed to be made, Hauck (who remember is an even more experienced head coach than Bielema is) came on his own with a different vision of the changes to make, and they were so misaligned that it was better to just make a clean break.

I don't think Hauck just up and quit, I don't think Bielema even suggested as much today, he kept saying "there was no point", whatever Hauck wanted to do going forward just wasn't acceptable to Bert.
In what world is Hauck a more experienced Head Coach than Bielema? Was Hauck ever a HC at P4 school...No (closest he came was UNLV where he went 15-48) . Was Hauck ever in the NFL...No. Did he ever win any Major Conf Championships or Bowl Games...No. Did he ever have any prominent NFL players...No. Was he ever a Superbowl winning coach....No. Has Hauck ever been on a high profile College Football Committee likethe D1 College Football Oversite Committe...No. C'mon man.

Hauck had no idea what he wanted to do going forward except not having major responsibilities and pressure of high profile football and a strong preference to be fly fishing or whatever else one does when retired in Montana (which is good livin' btw).
 
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I don't think it's fair to penalize the staff for players getting hurt. Obviously roster construction would look very different if they could predict the future.
When signing a player from the portal, Bret takes into account past performance rather than high school rankings. Should Bret take into account past injuries as well? Are some injuries hard to get over than others? Do we give them full body MRIs like the NFL does at the draft combine? If not, why not?
 
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Well it’s going to be one of Hauck’s guys calling the defense the rest of the year. So I’m not expecting much improvement. What a mess this turned out to be
After watching Werner and Wagner, I do think this will (perhaps unbelievably) be the right answer. It seems our current situation is this: --- we simply have the wrong defensive scheme in place, along with the wrong set of coaches. No ideal answer.

As bad as it already was in Champaign, my expectations for THIS season and NEXT have just gone down significantly. UPCOMING TEST: Purdue got killed by ND, and if they now come to town and move the ball at will against us, it will confirm how far we have to go to get back to respectability.

Pretty big blemish on Bret's resume. 3 of his 5 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators fired..
 
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After watching Werner and Wagner, I do think this will (perhaps unbelievably) be the right answer. It seems our current situation is this: --- we simply have the wrong defensive scheme in place, along with the wrong set of coaches. No ideal answer.

As bad as it already was in Champaign, my expectations for THIS season and NEXT have just gone down significantly. UPCOMING TEST: Purdue got killed by ND, and if they now come to town and move the ball at will against us, it will confirm how far we have to go to get back to respectability.

Pretty big blemish on Bret's resume. 3 of his 5 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators fired..
While you aren’t wrong that it’s not ideal, but I’m guessing all teams that aren’t that upper echelon of Big Ten and SEC or big conferences have similar situations…

Either you take off to the top or you don’t. And if you don’t, it’s either head coach or assistants, and if you believe in the head coach, then the assistants gotta go.
If all goes according to plan, that’s when assistants move on and become head coaches or get better opportunities.
 
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While you aren’t wrong that it’s not ideal, but I’m guessing all teams that aren’t that upper echelon of Big Ten and SEC or big conferences have similar situations…

Either you take off to the top or you don’t. And if you don’t, it’s either head coach or assistants, and if you believe in the head coach, then the assistants gotta go.
If all goes according to plan, that’s when assistants move on and become head coaches or get better opportunities.

The Hauck hire was very risky for a lot of reasons. It was either going to be a home run hire or it would blow up on us.
 
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After watching Werner and Wagner, I do think this will (perhaps unbelievably) be the right answer. It seems our current situation is this: --- we simply have the wrong defensive scheme in place, along with the wrong set of coaches. No ideal answer.

As bad as it already was in Champaign, my expectations for THIS season and NEXT have just gone down significantly. UPCOMING TEST: Purdue got killed by ND, and if they now come to town and move the ball at will against us, it will confirm how far we have to go to get back to respectability.

Pretty big blemish on Bret's resume. 3 of his 5 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators fired..
Eh, I think this is overstating things a bit. It would be great to have Phil Parker as DC for 20 years, but Phil Parkers don't grow on trees. This year is a struggle, but with the lack of talent on defense it was always going to be a struggle. With the portal, even bad teams are only one year away from respectability.
 
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One thing that is really overlooked on this board and on the topic of the defense is we are 15th in BT payroll. And probably 18th on defense payroll.

The last couple of years we were average. Teams have passed us. If this isn’t corrected then we are looking at 2-7 Big Ten seasons for the foreseeable future. We need our NIL to double from approximately $5M to NIL of $10M just to approach the middle of the BT.
 
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I think Coach B made it clear to Hauck over the past few games that he was increasingly frustrated with the poor communications, blown tackles, lack of a pass rush, failure to get off the field, few turnovers and TFLs, penalties, and failure to show much improvement while the season was slipping away. For his part, I think Hauck had difficulty relating to today's players, was not used to coaching at the P4 level, and did not like being criticized by a younger head coach after calling the shots for so many years as the HC. Hauck figured he didn't need the aggravation, and at least had the sense and class to resign after seeing he would not succeed at Illinois. Coach B looked relieved to move on, and pointedly did not thank Hauck for his service to the program.

Both are happy to be done with this totally failed experiment, though I expect the Illini to retain Hauck's old DC and the 3-5-3 D for the rest of this year, tweak QB pressure packages, emphasize better tackling, swarming to the ball, taking away the opponent's primary weapon,and streamlined communications. Retooling to a whole new defense at this point and issuing/learning a new playbook, has no advantages and would likely cause complete confusion and tank the season.
Wow! Really nicely captured. I agree 100% with this, and you nailed all the relevant points. I particularly think Hauck (as a long-tenured HC) wanted no part of dealing with BB's criticism.
 
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I think it was more than not enjoying it (probably true). BB brought up without prompt, in-season demotions and dealing with them 2 previous times. Why bring that up?
The tone of that seemed to be that he can pivot and make changes without losing much. he also talked about his
NFL experience learning how to change staff/players mid stream.
 
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The Hauck hire was very risky for a lot of reasons. It was either going to be a home run hire or it would blow up on us.
There was a near zero percent chance he was going to be a home run hire. He's never recruited at this level and just retired because he hated the current state of high level college football (NIL etc), he had never even been a DC.

He was 100% a desperation hire because we had no other viable options and Brett was hoping he would do a decent job until he could find a solid DC next.

And yes, if he miraculously did a great job, then he would have been able to stay as long as he wanted before he re-retired. But we all know this played out.

HUGE black eye on Brett for letting it come to this under his watch.
 
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People don't want to admit that because it's self soothing to believe that firing one guy fixes the problem, when the problem is the lack of money we have to spend and what we do spend greases the wheels of the offense.

This is a talent problem. This will be our third DC in 4 games. We'll see what he can do to better things.
It didn’t help that the players apparently didn’t buy in or believed in him.
 
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After watching Werner and Wagner, I do think this will (perhaps unbelievably) be the right answer. It seems our current situation is this: --- we simply have the wrong defensive scheme in place, along with the wrong set of coaches. No ideal answer.

As bad as it already was in Champaign, my expectations for THIS season and NEXT have just gone down significantly. UPCOMING TEST: Purdue got killed by ND, and if they now come to town and move the ball at will against us, it will confirm how far we have to go to get back to respectability.

Pretty big blemish on Bret's resume. 3 of his 5 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators fired..
The only OC that was fired was Peterson. No DC was necessarily fired. Walters took the Purdue job and Henry left for ND. We do not really know what transpired this weekend on if Hauck got fired or he decided this was not the job for him.
 
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BB very much indicated that it was Hauck’s decision to move on. And that he had no intention of firing him.
But he also mentioned he has quiety demoted people in the past and he had changes coming to the defense. Whether Hauck heard that and said I'm out before he was actually fired can be up for debate sure.
 
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One thing that is really overlooked on this board and on the topic of the defense is we are 15th in BT payroll. And probably 18th on defense payroll.

The last couple of years we were average. Teams have passed us. If this isn’t corrected then we are looking at 2-7 Big Ten seasons for the foreseeable future. We need our NIL to double from approximately $5M to NIL of $10M just to approach the middle of the BT.
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There was a near zero percent chance he was going to be a home run hire. He's never recruited at this level and just retired because he hated the current state of high level college football (NIL etc), he had never even been a DC.

He was 100% a desperation hire because we had no other viable options and Brett was hoping he would do a decent job until he could find a solid DC next.

And yes, if he miraculously did a great job, then he would have been able to stay as long as he wanted before he re-retired. But we all know this played out.

HUGE black eye on Brett for letting it come to this under his watch.

He wasn’t brought in to recruit. Going to this scheme was a high risk high reward move. It. Blew up in our face
 
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After watching Werner and Wagner, I do think this will (perhaps unbelievably) be the right answer. It seems our current situation is this: --- we simply have the wrong defensive scheme in place, along with the wrong set of coaches. No ideal answer.

As bad as it already was in Champaign, my expectations for THIS season and NEXT have just gone down significantly. UPCOMING TEST: Purdue got killed by ND, and if they now come to town and move the ball at will against us, it will confirm how far we have to go to get back to respectability.

Pretty big blemish on Bret's resume. 3 of his 5 Offensive/Defensive Coordinators fired..
Agreed......hoping some things to cheer about......but wow, was I disappointed with the season and the outloook.
 
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