Eastern Michigan 34, Illinois 31 POSTGAME

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I’m quickly becoming of the age where I wonder how many rebuilds I have left in me. Then again, maybe that’s a good thing because I don’t believe there will be a happy end to this story.

Frankly I have no idea what the solution is. I really wanted to believe Lovie could do it. What a great story that would have been. Better athletes, but no improvement to speak of. It’s very easy to see another 3 or 4 600 yard games against us. Especially when the offense can’t stay on the field. I heard someone say the O-Line was the second best in the b10. Perhaps second best in the lower half of the b10 west, because they were pathetic today. Pathetic.
 
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Lovie, said something like they should feel bad after this. Not good enough, I heard that last week after UCONN. Not saying they shouldn't feel bad just don't want to hear that as if that will fix things for the next week.
 
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WhiteRhino said:
What trajectory?
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SKane said:
The program looked great against MACron. Three questions.

1) Is EMU that much better than MACron?

2) Has IL regressed?

If you want to cheat, the answers are - no and yes.
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I'd say Yes and Possibly. Akron is down 17-0 right now against a CMU that got tattooed 61-0 by Wiscy, and November 12th they play each other so I'm guessing a rather large EMU win.
 
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No worries gang, we were not trying to show too much of our offense and defense today - good strategy.

Seriously, if you look at the box score - the ENTIRE difference in the game is penalties. Someone made a jab at VATech against Furman today when VATech was down - well, Tech's not as good this year, BUT - Furman had their FIRST penalty of the game with 12 mins left in the game. Crazy what disciplined play can do.

The lack of discipline is on Smith and Smith.
 
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Illinisoccer said:
Hard not to blame rod smith for the offense doing nothing for 2 1/2 quarters. Not sure what lovie could do. When he blitzed our man coverage couldn’t hold up and when they played zone the line got now pressure
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Blitzes were a joke. They stepped up into line and got engulfed. No strength and a terrible game plan.
 
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TooHot4Tots said:
Blitzes were a joke. They stepped up into line and got engulfed. No strength and a terrible game plan.
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Eh. Not entirely true. We didn’t do anything schematically that EMU didn’t do if you watch the plays back, which I am now. Simply put, EMU did a better job of picking up the pressure up front than we did. Our OL didn’t do their jobs today.

They also had a lot of WRs running wide open, especially down the middle of the hashes. Their secondary outplayed ours, by a mile.
 
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Hoppy2105 said:
Winning five games is no longer a reason to keep Lovie. You only keep him if you go 3-0 in the non-con, then win 2 conference games and are competitive in the other losses.

THAT was the only way 5-7 was a possibility for retainment.

Now that Lovie lost, it is a bowl or fire in my eyes.

Good luck Lovie/team.
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Well, thing is, the five wins would actually be better now, because three of them would be Big Ten games.

But yeah, it's bowl or bust, and that means Rutgers plus three more, and tough to see where the three more come from at this point.
 
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Twangers said:
Eh. Not entirely true. We didn’t do anything schematically that EMU didn’t do if you watch the plays back, which I am now. Simply put, EMU did a better job of picking up the pressure up front than we did. Our OL didn’t do their jobs today.

They also had a lot of WRs running wide open, especially down the middle of the hashes. Their secondary outplayed ours, by a mile.
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They were sending 6 and 7 guys. We should have been gashing them for huge gains on those plays. Either the wrong plays were being called or Peters couldn’t make the read.

TV really never showed the crowd. I assume that means it was bad. Was it Akron bad?
 
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I know injuries are part of the game (and life), but I imagine with Roundtree, Woods, Beason, Green and Adams, and Epstein on offense, things would be different. That being said, our lack of developed depth at so many positions is a head-scratcher.
 
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Well, thing is, the five wins would actually be better now, because three of them would be Big Ten games.

But yeah, it's bowl or bust, and that means Rutgers plus three more, and tough to see where the three more come from at this point.
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There is really no path now. We essentially have win a road game against some program that will dwarf us in talent along with 2 others for which we’ll likely be double digit dogs. It was a fun offseason of optimism but the path to 6 is closed.
 
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Twangers said:
Eh. Not entirely true. We didn’t do anything schematically that EMU didn’t do if you watch the plays back, which I am now. Simply put, EMU did a better job of picking up the pressure up front than we did. Our OL didn’t do their jobs today.

They also had a lot of WRs running wide open, especially down the middle of the hashes. Their secondary outplayed ours, by a mile.
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When you throw your LBs into line and they get lost, it’s not smart. Or they just pass over empty middle and lack of secondary is put in a worse position. Lack of DL penetration didn’t help. Coaches put us in terrible positions. But we have Lou👍
 
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illini80 said:
They were sending 6 and 7 guys. We should have been gashing them for huge gains on those plays. Either the wrong plays were being called or Peters couldn’t make the read.
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Old dog, new tricks. I also think we should have been running the ball MUCH more than drop back pass...
 
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ChiefGritty said:
Well, thing is, the five wins would actually be better now, because three of them would be Big Ten games.

But yeah, it's bowl or bust, and that means Rutgers plus three more, and tough to see where the three more come from at this point.
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5 wins would be a great season at this point. Something big has to change for that tho and we continue to suffer injuries we can’t afford. So the trajectory looks poor to me.
 
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illini80 said:
They were sending 6 and 7 guys. We should have been gashing them for huge gains on those plays. Either the wrong plays were being called or Peters couldn’t make the read.
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Or the OL didn’t do the job, which is the reality of what transpired today. Watch the fumble play, for instance. Peters doesn’t have a chance. If he throws it, it’s another boneheaded in the box grounding call. He didn’t have to cough the ball up of course but that play happens because our OL got beat up front, common theme today in the pass game.
 
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KingK said:
Blame Brandon Peters for not being able to throw the ball. Lovie’s defense also gave up 34 points to Eastern Michigan...
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I blame the guy who has had four years to groom a QB, which happens to be the same person as the defense that gave up 34 points.
 
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Peter's played scared...I'm not sure the team really rallies behind him. Who is the leader?

Should've had better play than this. I would've swapped in IW for a series or two just as a change of pace. 4 wins in the big ten?? I don't see that happening
 
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TooHot4Tots said:
When you throw your LBs into line and they get lost, it’s not smart. Or they just pass over empty middle and lack of secondary is put in a worse position. Lack of DL penetration didn’t help. Coaches put us in terrible positions. But we have Lou👍
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I don’t disagree with that, what I’m saying is that EMU actually didn’t do much different schematically. The blitz combinations they went with today don’t look any different to me because, we’ll, they’re not. As it relates to the pressure (That’s what I’m looking at specifically in the context of this argument) the issue wasn’t schematics necessarily. It was poor individual play from the kids in a lot spots, both on our defense and our OL. Defensively speaking, if Betiku isn’t getting to the QB we essentially don’t get there at all. We need guys to step up and make plays.

What we really need is for Quan Martin to step up. That kid got torched today.
 
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Twangers said:
Or the OL didn’t do the job, which is the reality of what transpired today. Watch the fumble play, for instance. Peters doesn’t have a chance. If he throws it, it’s another boneheaded in the box grounding call. He didn’t have to cough the ball up of course but that play happens because our OL got beat up front, common theme today in the pass game.
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I understand that, but we needed an extra tight end and/or back to stay in and help block. If that happened I wasn’t seeing it.
 
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Enjoy rest of the season as we play legit Big Ten competition. Lovie Smith is a failure! Maybe Josh can reach out to Ron again🤬
 
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Nice comeback followed by the inevitable......

Went to the UCONN game with my son and grandson. Pretty sure it was my 1st Illini football game since I was a student in 79/80. A few off and on good years, mostly off, since Moeller. 3 yard loss and a cloud of dust. At least we were only the 9th or 10th worst team in the Big Ten then.

Go Illini! PLEASE!
 
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BlueLeader said:
EMU could have zero points. The defense still have up almost 500 yards. This isn't on Rod Smith.
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Totally agree. They can’t stop anybody. Offense tied the game - as poorly as o line played. Bad pass defense and stupid penalties in all 3 games. Half way decent competition showed us all what we feared was the case - another lost season.
 
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