Both McGary and Glenn Robinson III were 5 star mcdaa types. One left, one stayed. Same year.
Economics of AAU and Shoe Companies in Recruiting
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Both McGary and Glenn Robinson III were 5 star mcdaa types. One left, one stayed. Same year.
Right. Do you understand the point I'm trying to make? Maybe I'm being unclear. The romanticization of Indiana high school basketball as it pertains to Mr. Basketball, IHSSA state titles, Indiana all star teams etc is being overblown as it pertains to the top tier of talent, which in turn makes it not all that dissimilar than, say, the climate of high school basketball in Illinois. Of course the vast majority ofplayers want to accomplish all those aforementioned accolades. The cream of the crop? Meh.
One really need only cite La Lumiere in this argument, actually. How much did JCL really care about the pursuit of Indiana high school immortality?
1) I had already previously agreed with S&C on the high level recruits point.
2) You brought in the region and did not make a distinction on the upper echelon of talent until after. My initial rebuttal to your post was only to say yes, the region does care about those things just as much as the rest of Indiana does.
And it's not that the cream of the crop don't care about winning state titles with their high school teams if that's where they are. These are competitive guys who love to play, and state playoffs and the like are big stages with big crowds and all of that.
It's just that give them an offer to do something that gives them a 0.1% better chance of an NBA career and they will jump at it in a blink of an eye.
That would be a better way to phrase what I said. All the players care, but that caring is dwarfed by the desire to have a professional future in the game.
Eschewing current glory for future development is something that ought to be praised, not decried as a bad sign of the times. Make high school sports the most meaningful thing in your life and you end up on the wrong end of a Bruce Springsteen lyric.
Now this is the way to best describe it. It is also the best way to think about it. These kids are trying to line up their future careers.
As it should be. I had to laugh during that Dakich rant when he said, affirmatively, that Paul Scruggs won't play in the NBA. Yes, I'm sure you have Scruggs' best interest in mind, idiot.
I used to play for the "B" team of a major AAU program in Georgia. They gave most of the money to the other team obviously, we did most of the fundraising ourselves, but they did provide all the Nike gear and shoes, etc.
Pretty much everyone from that entire program went to Nike schools.
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Please give us some examples of these 'offer(s) to do something(s)' that give them this .1% advantage? I think arguments of this sort are just pure baloney.
Here to learn, as well. It appears from the previous discussion, Nike and Adidas are the primary companies that play a part in the economics of the AAU and shoe companies in recruiting. What are some of the other companies that get involved - New Balance, Converse, others?
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The point isn't whether these things actually give them an advantage, the point is that they perceive it that way.
I don't claim to know if this sham basketball factory (which will be shut down in 3-4 years by the NCAA) is a better developmental environment for Paul Scruggs than his Indiana high school, but Scruggs and his camp do, and that's what matters.
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icengineer
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Okay, I'll give you that. But here's my point. You seem to think that a 1 in 1000 chance makes a difference to these kids. (.1% equals 1 in 1000) and I just don't think that falls into their consideration parameters.
Regardless of all that I think we give these kids wayyyyy tooo much credit for factoring in all these variables that all of us 'armchair quarterbacks' take into account. "We act as if we are wise, we are not." (icengineer)
When I listened through the noise...I thought that was the underlying point Dakich was making...that the "camp" was wooed and sold a bill of goods. Maybe just me inferring.
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That could very well be.
But the "honor" of playing for the Indiana state title or Mr. Basketball is every bit as much of a bill of goods.
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