So you believe that he would recruit a player for years and then see him almost every day they are enrolled and he would have no idea that his parent(s) is/are employed by a rich Duke booster who probably attends most of their games?
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So you believe that he would recruit a player for years and then see him almost every day they are enrolled and he would have no idea that his parent(s) is/are employed by a rich Duke booster who probably attends most of their games?
Agreed that the people indicted today are clearly breaking multiple laws. I'm specifically talking about going after the recruits who are receiving this money. Could they be investigated for tax evasion based on the current evidence? I really don't know. I guess if the money was electronically transferred, then they would be guilty of wire fraud. If evidence exists of wire fraud committed by a recruit, then I think the FBI would go after them. I just don't know if there is probable cause for an IRS audit to specifically prove tax evasion.
Does the FBI stop at these 10 indictments and say "well we did something" or do they go hard after EVERYONE who benefits from the illegal transfer of money in NCAA programs. Will they go after recruits? Where do they stop this investigation? Just imagine if they find out that the NCAA knew about these crimes and failed to report them. Think about the Anthony Davis situation where he was cleared of wrong doing even though his dad was asking for $200k cash. Did the NCAA have a responsibility to turn that information over to the FBI? There was certainly enough smoke there to suspect that a crime had been committed. I will point out that bribery and wire fraud would be enough to turn this into a RICO case, but that's probably highly unlikely. Imagine what would happen if they could get some of these high profile recruits to start talking if they were faced with real jail time.
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What Book Richardson's case could mean for Arizona.
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this isn't a "system" problem this is a scumbag problem
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this isn't a "system" problem this is a scumbag problem
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Dang. When Jay Bilas talks. I listen. Here's a quote...“This is an issue of bribery and enterprise corruption and people violating federal law in a scheme that deals with agents and shoe companies and the like. We’re dealing essentially with an underground economy. This is not what you deal with day to day when you talk about recruiting being unethical.
This goes way beyond that to the point of illegality and people going to jail.
You better believe it’s more than the four that were caught. It’s scores, maybe. And, yes, we will find that out, because if you don’t think those arrested won’t sell out peers if a reduction of sentence is on the bargaining table, think again."
This goes way beyond that to the point of illegality and people going to jail.
You better believe it’s more than the four that were caught. It’s scores, maybe. And, yes, we will find that out, because if you don’t think those arrested won’t sell out peers if a reduction of sentence is on the bargaining table, think again."
So what type of timeline are we looking at here? I fear this is going to be a 5+ year process, leaving a huge black cloud over college basketball the whole time.
But will the process be quicker since it's the FBI instead of the NCAA?
But will the process be quicker since it's the FBI instead of the NCAA?
Chris Duhon and his mom would know for sure
Furthermore, if people listened to federal prosecutors today, the case involved not only coaches, but also companies funneling money to recruits' families in exchange for their services. The recruits and their families will definitely talk and cut deals to avoid prosecution and felony charges.
I was thinking about this today. Maybe if that's the case, recruiting will be clean while staffs are scared straight by all of this muck being uncovered. One can hope, right?
Athletic department has issued a statement about investigation. We are monitoring situation.
https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/status/912870164768706561
https://twitter.com/JWernerScout/status/912870164768706561
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I'd think he'd go out of his way to not know. I don't have any idea how all that works... just speculating.
Worst thing they could have done
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Ugh. Why? This smells.
Thanks, wanted to read the exact verbiage. Not sure I'm jumping up and down about the fact they chose to release a statement at this juncture at all, but at any rate their statement was a lot more level and encouraging than, say, Pitino's. =P
You gotta figure that if Whitman and Underwood were in the same neck of the woods today, Whitman would have sat Underwood down, looked him in the eye, and asked if Illinois was going to end up being touched by this. That's how I frame the wording in this statement.
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Yep. This was a bad decision. But hopefully similar statements will be released by lots of other programs, and our statement will be lost to the noise.
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Meh, it's fine. If they were getting incoming requests, this does an adequate job of acknowledging them.
It kind of depends on what the accused have to say and how many people they can implicate. We are in somewhat unchartered grounds here because this is a nationwide investigation. Most corruption cases are somewhat limited geographically like Governors, or a cop precinct.
This is more akin to a mafia investigation that already touches many different areas. I'm guessing under 5 years but not by much. The fallout will leave a black cloud forever though.
As part of any plea deal the accused will have to detail their entire criminal dealings which could stretch back many years.
Being an attorney, I hardly believe this is a bad decision. To begin with, the University is already at least marginally involved inasmuch as its present head basketball coach was last year the head coach of one of the assistants charged, during which time such illegal activities presumably occurred. So, now that the cat’s out of the bag, the Bureau is, in all likelihood, shortly to be knocking on his door. Moreover, in a high profile case such as this, you always want to stay on top of and a step ahead of the media. Had no statement been issued, you can bet questions would have been asked (like, starting tomorrow) and folks would speculate if no statement was forthcoming. Better to nip all of that in the bud. You have to be proactive — the “ostrich approach” of ignoring a problem simply courts public relations and media disaster in this type of situation.
Agreed this is an NCAA Basketball problem, everyone is effected.
The time to worry is when a bunch of Federal agents storm the University with Subpoenas in hand and start grabbing computers and records
If you are cool with the statement then I am too.
Someone commenting in that tweet brings up a worthwile point, assuming it's true. Whitman was a clerk for a Federal Court Justice, so its hopefully pretty telling if he doesn't smell anything fishy after doing his due diligence. We have a good one in our corner!
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Pitino is gone!
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Fact or conjecture?
Hardly reassuring. What needed to be continually monitored throughout the day, someone possibly spilling the beans? Not aware of any information to suggest involvement in today's allegations doesn't mean they're not aware of involvement in something else.
It might hold some more weight if it had come from BU or had his name personally attached/signed off if you will. Without that and the fact that many are stating this gets ahead of the situation, makes it smell as if there might be a lingering stench that has not arisen as of yet.
Lets hope we are squeaky clean, let the Pitino's and the others of the world sweat this out. The ILLINI have already had a rough decade or so, lets not start another, when we just began to see the light at the end of a very dark tunnel.
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