Former Illini in College Basketball 24-25

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It's not his fault KSU offered him $2mil. I got eligibility left and if they offered me $2mil I'd take it too. The flip side is when you get that kind of cash and things don't turn out the way people think it should they are going to throw shade as they say. Ignore it and do the best you can Coleman.
I wonder if KSU wasn't expecting more for their buck. His shooting isn't what it was for us. He is shooting .39 this year vs. .45 last year. His three-point percentage has dropped from .37 for us to .30 this year. His FT% has dropped from .79 to .54.
 
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I *almost* put (it’s not the jelly of the month club) in my post but opted not to in hopes someone would say this. Bravo, sir!
 
#411      
These youngsters are getting a crash course in the professional world - where even in business/careers - Better money doesn't mean the grass is greener somewhere else. The other little things matter.

(Yes - I know that we had a mutual separation)
Let's not ignore that Coleman got a lot of abuse from fans here at Illinois as well during his Soph/Junior seasons.
 
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It seems like nobody outside of our fanbase really understood what Coleman Hawkins was before he transferred. He's pretty much playing the same game he always has, just a less efficient version of it so far. His shooting percentages and ppg are down, but not completely wild compared to his career average. His rebounds and assists are UP from last season and career bests so far. Biggest difference is the team around him is way worse, and he got a huge NIL deal. Not his fault K St. was willing to throw a ridiculous number at him.

Agree. We watched him for 4 years, so I think most of us tempered his ceiling and progression with what we'd seen in total. In the portal, they saw a skilled stretch 4 guy, great defender, borderline NBA level, who made a leap last year. Both his confidence and outside shot, from sub-30% to 37%, and with great range. So they projected him making further progress, and talked themselves into how he would elevate even more.

Not so fast. They underestimated the transition to a new system and the set of players around him. His 3 pt shooting is back to where he's inefficient. And although a tiny sample, his FT shooting is down too. I don't think it surprises us, but if he'd stayed, would he be more comfortable and have better numbers? We'll never know, but more power to him for selling while his stock was so high. Wish him nothing but the best.
 
#415      
Really wasn't sure where to link this...

Kansas State Fans Harshly React To Coleman Hawkins Cheering On Illinois
I am so glad that he got his bags,but like my old man always said money can’t always buy happiness ….sometimes you just have to pick your poison.
 
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K State's bad play is not on Coleman at all. Doug Mcdaniel barley plays and isnt good when he does, Onyenso hasnt played almost at all and both of them got paid aswell.

Coleman isnt shying away and is always gonna say what he thinks, the other players have hidden and Tang is clearly in over his head. I feel bad he has to deal with all the BS talk of him getting hurt but that comes with money and being online.
 
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Regarding KState, you see this in the NBA, especially the LA Clippers. They will go out and spend money on free agents, and then the team doesn't fit well and the winning culture has never been there. You also see other franchises that draft well, hirer good coaching staff, good front office and keep winning.
 
#419      
K State's bad play is not on Coleman at all. Doug Mcdaniel barley plays and isnt good when he does, Onyenso hasnt played almost at all and both of them got paid aswell.

Coleman isnt shying away and is always gonna say what he thinks, the other players have hidden and Tang is clearly in over his head. I feel bad he has to deal with all the BS talk of him getting hurt but that comes with money and being online.
I agree about Coleman taking disproportionate blame. KSU fans haven’t shared the blood, sweat, and tears that we have with Coleman and so they have no sympathy or grace for him. The relationship is purely transactional.

We’re witnessing the sad ending many more college players (who are borderline pros) will experience as they chase money to unceremonious endings when on-court performance doesn’t meet expectations.
 
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I agree about Coleman taking disproportionate blame. KSU fans haven’t shared the blood, sweat, and tears that we have with Coleman and so they have no sympathy or grace for him. The relationship is purely transactional.

We’re witnessing the sad ending many more college players (who are borderline pros) will experience as they chase money to unceremonious endings when on-court performance doesn’t meet expectations.
The ending isn't sad, it's bitter (criticism) sweet ($$$$).
 
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I agree about Coleman taking disproportionate blame. KSU fans haven’t shared the blood, sweat, and tears that we have with Coleman and so they have no sympathy or grace for him. The relationship is purely transactional.

We’re witnessing the sad ending many more college players (who are borderline pros) will experience as they chase money to unceremonious endings when on-court performance doesn’t meet expectations.
Illinois fans weren't the most forgiving of him when he had a bad performance either.

Honestly, he likely has at best 10 years or so left to earn money playing basketball, most likely overseas. It could be half that. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes more in this one season at K-St than he makes for the rest of his career combined. He made the right decision for himself. He faced plenty criticism when he was here, I'm sure he can manage.
 
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Illinois fans weren't the most forgiving of him when he had a bad performance either.

Honestly, he likely has at best 10 years or so left to earn money playing basketball, most likely overseas. It could be half that. I wouldn't be surprised if he makes more in this one season at K-St than he makes for the rest of his career combined. He made the right decision for himself. He faced plenty criticism when he was here, I'm sure he can manage.
Exactly. If the average person had a job offer for 3-5x what they could could make elsewhere they would take it, even if it isn’t the best fit. College basketball is a business now.
 
#424      
Coleman is a good player but $2 million is way too much.

This experience may make it more difficult for Coach Tang to raise the money to hire the next $2 million dollar man.
 
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