Long time reader, first post now, I have to get this out... I was on the Groce bandwagon for a long time, but it seems that this team is getting worse and worse the more they play Groce's style of offense... dribble around for 20 seconds, wait for the defense to get set and then force a shot... seen it a million times... ball was moving when Tejon was in, I guess Groce hasn't had enough time to get that out yet - probably why he's not playing more... I'm done watching this crap, every team has its strengths and weaknesses, but you cannot win if the coaching staff is setting you up to lose... dribbling for 25 seconds and taking jump shots is a recipe for losing teams.