Illini Baseball 2024

#301      

AZILL

AZILL
AZILL
Okay, obvious difference in how this is called in MLB vs NCAA. This ^^^ video does a great job of explaining how the rule is implemented in College ball.

Dare I say we will now have yet ANOTHER Illini rule implemented in college sports? Namely the requirement of a 'High 1st Base camera view???? I know college baseball doesn't have the viewers/$$$ of the revenue sports, but I'm frankly surprised there aren't 2 outfield cameras aligned along the 1st/2nd base line, and the 2nd/3rd base line. Those do cost additional $$$ though. Perhaps the way to implement it is to only require those cameras during Post-Season play???
 
Last edited:
#304      

floorburn

F
floorburn
AZILL said:
Okay, obvious difference in how this is called in MLB vs NCAA. This ^^^ video does a great job of explaining how the rule is implemented in College ball.

Dare I say we will now have yet ANOTHER Illini rule implemented in college sports? Namely the requirement of a 'High 1st Base camera view???? I know college baseball doesn't have the viewers/$$$ of the revenue sports, but I'm frankly surprised there aren't 2 outfield cameras aligned along the 1st/2nd base line, and the 2nd/3rd base line. Those do cost additional $$$ though. Perhaps the way to implement it is to only require those cameras during Post-Season play???
Click to expand...
I think the replay officials had access to the "high first" camera angle (based on the commentary from the closecallssports.com link) but for whatever reason BTN did not.
 
#307      

SuperintendentChalmers

SuperintendentChalmers
SuperintendentChalmers
Seeing the diagram and hearing the analysis, the call makes a little more sense to me, even if I would have let it go.

In MLB, a runner has the leeway to slide as long as he can reach the base and stop there. Your legs and butt can hit the ground on the pitcher's mound or outfield side of the base, so long as you are close enough to reach the bag with your hand. However, the NCAA requires you to slide in a way so that each part of you is directly in the 15-inch path between the bags. Here, the Iowa runner slides in front of the bag to impede the Illini player. Were he not able to reach out for the bag with his arm, he would not have hit the base.
 
#308      

SuperintendentChalmers

SuperintendentChalmers
SuperintendentChalmers
Lord Voldemort said:
So basically, if your hips and shoulders are broader than the bases you are automatically in violation.

Like I said: dumb rule.
Click to expand...
I don't think that's it. Your hips, shoulders, butt, legs must all be inside the 15-inch zone. If some of you spills over, that's fine. The call here was for interference because the runner's legs and butt were completely outside the 15-inch zone on the pitcher's mound side in order to impede the throw to first. The runner was close enough to reach into the zone in order to touch the the base with his arm. This would be OK in MLB. However, not in the NCAA.
 
#311      

WyattEarp

WyattEarp
WyattEarp
Lord Voldemort said:
So basically, if your hips and shoulders are broader than the bases you are automatically in violation.

Like I said: dumb rule.
Click to expand...
John Kruk would have been screwed.
IMG_2427.jpeg
 
#312      

ChiefGritty

ChiefGritty
Chicago, IL
ChiefGritty
SuperintendentChalmers said:
I don't think that's it. Your hips, shoulders, butt, legs must all be inside the 15-inch zone. If some of you spills over, that's fine. The call here was for interference because the runner's legs and butt were completely outside the 15-inch zone on the pitcher's mound side in order to impede the throw to first. The runner was close enough to reach into the zone in order to touch the the base with his arm. This would be OK in MLB. However, not in the NCAA.
Click to expand...
This is essentially exactly how you coach it in MLB.

You have to run and slide directly into the base without any extraneous movement. But slide into the base in the most inconvenient way you reasonably can. Be in the way.
 
#315      

TheGMan

TheGMan
TheGMan
FlyNavy said:
So in other words, this would be considered "interference" by today's rules:

Click to expand...
I think there was an unwritten special rule for The Wizard. Runners could do whatever they wanted to try to interfere with him. Otherwise, it was considered too easy for him.
 
#321      

Illini IndyCar Fan

Illini IndyCar Fan
Illini IndyCar Fan
Lord Voldemort said:
So basically, if your hips and shoulders are broader than the bases you are automatically in violation.

Like I said: dumb rule.
Click to expand...
forceplayslide.png


Disagree with your take. The runner is only in violation if they slide out of the base line in the direction of the fielder, or if they slide toward the fielder in the protected gray area. So if the fielder is on the 3rd base side of the bag, our theoretical Kofi Cockburn sized runner is perfectly fine and legal having their hips and shoulders completely overhanging into the other unprotected area on the right side of the bag.

The difference in the MLB rule and NCAA rule is that this discourages contact ... which I'd argue is a good thing to try to minimize in college ball. The CCS channel does a great job explaining these differences when they pop up (and they also catalog and analyze every single MLB ejection as the season progresses, so it's an entertaining follow).
 
Last edited:
#323      

JFkingbuckets

J
JFkingbuckets
Alright guys, big fan graduated in 13' we can all agree that was kind of BS call where we feel lucky. If you're going by 'direct rule book' there's a lot of other calls that can be made. In that situation, that was a verrryyy bold call. (Look at White Sox/orioles 9th inning call other night)

We probably got one there buttttttt I'll take it. Go Illini!