Illini Basketball 2017-2018

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#626      
People keep saying how we are going to be small, I don't really think that will be the case. There will be times we do not have a guy under 6-5 on the floor, I would also think we will be taller at 3 of the 5 spots in more games then we aren't.
 
#627      
People keep saying how we are going to be small, I don't really think that will be the case. There will be times we do not have a guy under 6-5 on the floor, I would also think we will be taller at 3 of the 5 spots in more games then we aren't.

Prior to GE commit, I think we were. Now we look decent on paper, but him being a true freshman tempers that I think. Assuming these listed heights are correct, we'll have:

6' 0" TJL
6' 1" TF
6' 3" DW
6' 4" MA (seen him listed as 6' 5")
6' 5" AJ
6' 5" MS (seen him listed as 6' 4")
6' 6" KN
6' 7" LB
6' 9" GE
6' 10" MF

Not really out of line for a BIG level team.
 
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t7nich

Central IL
Let me know what you guys think about these PPG numbers for the upcoming season. Am I too high on Alstork and Finke – maybe. But IMO they will carry the load with Hill and Morgan being gone. Smith has the chance to do very well his Freshman year. And I think Kipper makes a nice sophomore leap.

17 Proven scorer/playmaker = Alstork
12 Should do well in this offense, increased from 7 PPG last year = Finke
12 Has the chance to be near the top of the league as a freshman = Smith
10 Ok scorer, good rebounder, increased from 8 PPG last year = Black
8 Look for improved scoring this year, all around numbers should improve = Kipper
8 Proven playmaker, assist and PPG numbers should go up a bit = Tejon
6 Should be a nice scoring option off the bench.. 3's, drive and finish, transition = Frazier
4 Unproven scorer, we'll see how he progresses in this system = Jordan
2 Should get some transition points and buckets off Offensive Rebounds = Ebo
.5 Clayton Jones
.5 Tyler Underwood
? Williams ? If he doesn’t redshirt I could see him averaging up to 6 pts per game.

80 PPG

Last year OK State averaged 86 I believe.

*slow day at the office*
 
#633      

PJD86

Texas
Let me know what you guys think about these PPG numbers for the upcoming season. Am I too high on Alstork and Finke – maybe. But IMO they will carry the load with Hill and Morgan being gone. Smith has the chance to do very well his Freshman year. And I think Kipper makes a nice sophomore leap.

17 Proven scorer/playmaker = Alstork
12 Should do well in this offense, increased from 7 PPG last year = Finke
12 Has the chance to be near the top of the league as a freshman = Smith
10 Ok scorer, good rebounder, increased from 8 PPG last year = Black
8 Look for improved scoring this year, all around numbers should improve = Kipper
8 Proven playmaker, assist and PPG numbers should go up a bit = Tejon
6 Should be a nice scoring option off the bench.. 3's, drive and finish, transition = Frazier
4 Unproven scorer, we'll see how he progresses in this system = Jordan
2 Should get some transition points and buckets off Offensive Rebounds = Ebo
.5 Clayton Jones
.5 Tyler Underwood
? Williams ? If he doesn’t redshirt I could see him averaging up to 6 pts per game.

80 PPG

Last year OK State averaged 86 I believe.

*slow day at the office*

I'd go a hair lower but I like this alot
 
#635      
for all those with doubts about Greg" Spicey G" Eboigbodin you might want to listen to the pod cast of Tay and J


http://tayandj.podbean.com/


said he has a higher motor then Black and will be the fast guy on the team.


his high school coach is about to be on so it will be on there as well
 
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#636      
Let me know what you guys think about these PPG numbers for the upcoming season. Am I too high on Alstork and Finke – maybe. But IMO they will carry the load with Hill and Morgan being gone. Smith has the chance to do very well his Freshman year. And I think Kipper makes a nice sophomore leap.

17 Proven scorer/playmaker = Alstork
12 Should do well in this offense, increased from 7 PPG last year = Finke
12 Has the chance to be near the top of the league as a freshman = Smith
10 Ok scorer, good rebounder, increased from 8 PPG last year = Black
8 Look for improved scoring this year, all around numbers should improve = Kipper
8 Proven playmaker, assist and PPG numbers should go up a bit = Tejon
6 Should be a nice scoring option off the bench.. 3's, drive and finish, transition = Frazier
4 Unproven scorer, we'll see how he progresses in this system = Jordan
2 Should get some transition points and buckets off Offensive Rebounds = Ebo
.5 Clayton Jones
.5 Tyler Underwood
? Williams ? If he doesn’t redshirt I could see him averaging up to 6 pts per game.

80 PPG

Last year OK State averaged 86 I believe.

*slow day at the office*
I think we will score closer to 90,but we might give up about the same
 
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t7nich

Central IL
I would say

Alstork at 15 (17 at WSU and likely to drop against better competition)

Smith at 8 (not guaranteed starter)

Kipper at 5 (focus on defense)

Frazier at 4 (won't have much time)

Jordan at 0 (don't see him contributing at all)

Thus something around 70 should be reasonable. Black may score more than you think (12 to 20 range)
 
#642      
Ill bet whatever you want, and my beach houses, that we score more than 80ppg.
 
#643      
Ill bet whatever you want, and my beach houses, that we score more than 80ppg.

How many big teams have scored over 80ppg in the last few years. I'm legitimately asking because the pace of conference play doesn't really provide much opportunity for an 77-78 ppg team, let alone 80+.
 
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foby

Bonnaroo Land
How many big teams have scored over 80ppg in the last few years. I'm legitimately asking because the pace of conference play doesn't really provide much opportunity for an 77-78 ppg team, let alone 80+.

This last season Iowa avg 80.5 and Purdue and Indiana each avg 79.7
 
#646      

foby

Bonnaroo Land
Last time Illini scored 80+ per game was the 93-94 season at 84 per
 
#647      
I would say

Alstork at 15 (17 at WSU and likely to drop against better competition)

Smith at 8 (not guaranteed starter)

Kipper at 5 (focus on defense)

Frazier at 4 (won't have much time)

Jordan at 0 (don't see him contributing at all)

Thus something around 70 should be reasonable. Black may score more than you think (12 to 20 range)


If we only average 70 a game under BU, it will be a massive fail. You have Smith as not a guaranteed starter but Frazier not playing much. Who do you have starting? Smith will likely be the second or third best player on the team. If he isn't, it will be a long year. Frazier is Lucas' backup at the point and likely the third wing, too. He will play big minutes.

Jordan won't score a point this season?
Kipper will average more than 5. More like 7-9, imo

With the roster as it stands right now, a 9 man rotation would include:

Finke
Black
Alstork
Smith
Lucas
Nichols
Frazier
Ebo
Jordan

Williams could bump Jordan eventually if he gets healthy. But with the style of play and only ten on scholarship, they will all get minutes. Adding another player or two would obviously change things.
 
#649      
Last time Illini scored 80+ per game was the 93-94 season at 84 per

If you look at the Illini record against top ten teams since the 1960 season:

Won: 49
Lost: 120
PPG in Wins: 80.8
PPG in Losses: 65.7

We have won against those top teams by outscoring them. If we can average 80 per game, I'm loving it and our chances.:chief:
 
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Jordan will be a junior. I expect him to contribute more this year. Similar to Mavericks Junior year, will be forced to contribute, hopefully under Underwood's system will get easier shots.
 
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