Liss walked on for 3 straight years. Shame on DIA for not finding him some kind of scholarship money. Wasn't Whitman Bronze Tablet? So he knows!!
Illini Basketball 2018-2019
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Liss walked on for 3 straight years. Shame on DIA for not finding him some kind of scholarship money. Wasn't Whitman Bronze Tablet? So he knows!!
That’s still earlier than I thought. I swear I had a friend graduation on June 28 one year.
So you're saying there's a chance?
You would think they all would be ready to get on campus. I would have been happy to be there as soon as they would let me. All those years of working towards a college scholarship have been completed. Time to move on to the next phase in life. Give Mom a kiss, Tell that girl text you later.
illini80
- Forgottonia
Ayo will be late reporting due to USA basketball camp.
http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illini-sports/2018-05-07/dosunmu-gets-team-usa-camp-invite.html
homesickalien
- Springfield
Total lack of athleticism. I bet if you looked at that for 5 years previous we'd be right near the bottom.
JFGsCoffeeMug
BU:1 Trash cans:0
- Chicago
Rutgers and Nebraska threw down twice as many dunks as us last year. I'm having trouble processing that.
luckily dunks and blocks are not mutually exclusive
It’s refreshing to see an athletic roster taking shape. With all this talk about recruiting for a “fit”, it surprises me more people aren’t hyped about Tevian. For one, we had no business landing him. If Arizona wasn’t eating sh*t right now, he’d be a wildcat. I hate myself for bringing up Arizona again. Sorry. But back to the point, Illinois has had some serious recruiting misforunate, but boy was this a remarkably lucky land. We just don’t get these types of athletes. A lot of Tevians highlites are steals that result in aggressive dunks in transition. Tailor-made fit.
foby
- Bonnaroo Land
Last in the B1G in blocks as well, 323rd of 351 teams in Division 1.
UI had 69 blocks, WI 13th in the B1G with 117.
In an attempt to prognosticate a little better for next season, I decided to try and project what Trent might be set up to accomplish in 2019. To do this, I looked at players that have made the all big ten freshman team AND the big ten honorable mention list. This seemed to be a decent way to capture freshman that had similarly impactful seasons their freshman years. I looked at the 2011-2017 seasons (because I'm lazy and didn't want to go back further).
This list includes 11 players:
Tony Carr
Ethan Happ
Caleb Swanigan
James Blackmon Jr
Yogi Ferrell
Sam Dekker
Glen Robinson III
Branden Dawson
Tim Hardaway Jr
Melsahn Basabe
Of these 11, 10 stayed healthy (Blackmon didn't) during their sophomore year. At the conclusion of their sophomore year:
Carr, Happ, Swanigan - 1st team all big ten.
Ferrell, Dekker - 2nd team.
Hardaway Jr - 3rd team.
Robinson III, Craft - Honorable Mention.
Dawson, Basabe - No accolades.
5/10 players became 1st or 2nd team material. That's a 50% shot that Trent Frazier becomes a monster next year, disregarding the glaring holes in my analysis.
The other 5 guys didn't have bad seasons either, but if we want to be a middle of the road team with a shot at the tournament, we need a star player. Frazier is our best shot at that, obviously, but looking at this made me more optimistic that he may be able to become an elite player next year.
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This list includes 11 players:
Tony Carr
Ethan Happ
Caleb Swanigan
James Blackmon Jr
Yogi Ferrell
Sam Dekker
Glen Robinson III
Branden Dawson
Tim Hardaway Jr
Melsahn Basabe
Of these 11, 10 stayed healthy (Blackmon didn't) during their sophomore year. At the conclusion of their sophomore year:
Carr, Happ, Swanigan - 1st team all big ten.
Ferrell, Dekker - 2nd team.
Hardaway Jr - 3rd team.
Robinson III, Craft - Honorable Mention.
Dawson, Basabe - No accolades.
5/10 players became 1st or 2nd team material. That's a 50% shot that Trent Frazier becomes a monster next year, disregarding the glaring holes in my analysis.
The other 5 guys didn't have bad seasons either, but if we want to be a middle of the road team with a shot at the tournament, we need a star player. Frazier is our best shot at that, obviously, but looking at this made me more optimistic that he may be able to become an elite player next year.
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Awesome stuff. Trent making a leap to 1st or 2nd team, Tev Jones or Ayo on all frosh squad, and a couple guys stepping up as good role players will give us a great foundation. Then we could say we are only a piece or two away and actually mean it. That's the realistic goal for this season IMO.
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I don't think that's true. Leron and Finke were both slow footed and couldn't jump. Thats why there was no help side defense. This style should theoretically lead to more block attempts because the pressure defense allows a lot of shot attempts at the rim. Compared to Groce's defense which tried to force teams to take long jumpers.
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Agree with your premise.
None of Underwood's previous teams have been high block teams. His Oklahoma State team was 199th in the nation, despite being a fairly high tempo team. The best SFA team was 136th.
Shots at the rim aren't blocked when they are taken one on one. When your forwards are spread out due to the midcourt pressure of your guards, you will give up a fair number of one on one low post attempts. It doesn't matter how slow or fast they are when they are that spread out.
Blocks are not a stat that we should be concerned about, they are relatively meaningless in this defense. Underwood wants to steal the pass, not block the shot.
Shots at the rim aren't blocked when they are taken one on one. When your forwards are spread out due to the midcourt pressure of your guards, you will give up a fair number of one on one low post attempts. It doesn't matter how slow or fast they are when they are that spread out.
Blocks are not a stat that we should be concerned about, they are relatively meaningless in this defense. Underwood wants to steal the pass, not block the shot.
agree blocks are not the issue.
giving up 54% for opponents 2PA is an area that we hopefully agree needs to be fixed ASAP.
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Opponents shooting percentage will be very high with no rim protection with this defense. If the defense is effective it should be balanced by turnovers. Unfortunately last year our +48 turnovers were offset by 65 more fouls than our conference opponents. The result was only 3 more fg attempts than opponents and a poor shooting percentage.
Not only Bob Knight, but also Gene Keady and his successor Matt Painter. There are a several ways to measure talent. For very recent years, we can look at the rating & ranking of recruits from 247sports. We can also look at the number of McDonald's All Americans beginning in 1977, and the number of NBA players.
Knight coached at IU 29 years, from 1971-72 to 1999-00. He coached 32 NBA players, 16 were first round draft picks. From 1977 to 2000, he signed 20 McDonald's All Americans. That is not quite UK, UNC, or Duke level talent, but compare to Purdue:
Keady was at PU 25 seasons, starting in 1980-81. He coached 14 NBA players, 3 were first round picks. He recruited 4 McDonald's All Americans. Painter has had 1 McD AA and 6 NBA players, including 2 late first round picks, in 13 years.
BTW, Lou Henson was at UI for 21 seasons, from 1975-76 - 1995-96. He coached a total of 12 NBA players; 5 of which were first round picks. He landed 8 McDonald's All Americans, all from 1980 to 1992; 5 from 1982 to 1987.
How does the competition Alan Griffin played vs T Jones's competition? I keep looking at the 9.9 rebounds per game and wonder if we are underestimating his athletic abilities. His stats are impressive and yet most of us do not expect a lot from him. Similar to TF last year. This class will be interesting.
High school stats sound good until players get to college, and then that's where those stats are really challenged and we get to see how good the players really are when at the next level. I hope all our new recruits play as good as the stars they've accumulated, but don't count on it.
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