Illini Basketball 2018-2019

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#926      
Completely agree. Think I also read that when practice started, he was just totally lost. I can understand that, I am sure that BU would have me lost, too.
I think I read that Kane was pretty solid in the secret scrimmage. Hopefully he's coming along fast and will be a solid contributor.
 
#928      
Personally I think Giorgi will have more minutes at the 5 than he can handle and it is unlikely he plays significant minutes at the 4. With regards to Kipper, I expect he ends up covering more minutes at the 5, than he does at the 3.

I expect Kipper to pretty much play the 4 and that's it.
 
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pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Last year we had some many games where a stupid foul or a backdoor alley oop or not making a bucket for 7 minutes caused our downfall....those pieces are gone and we have much better, more complete players. I expect us to be on the bubble and I'm looking forward to being surprised and being safely in the tournament. Can't wait for the season to start.
the dreaded 7 minute scoring droughts.......scarier than any halloween movie...
 
#930      
That would be tough, we were top 5 in the nation in forcing turnovers.

You would sacrifice a few of those to do better than the 313th in FG% defense we were last year.

It's a "break but don't bend" style, we just have to provide better help and contest more stuff at the rim. That will be tough with our interior personnel.

“Break but don’t bend”. Isn’t that a bad thing?
 
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I don't understand how he can practice without contact. Thought he had been shooting all along. .???

Stationary shooting can be done pretty early on in the recovery process. Same thing with running in a straight line. Practice without contact is exactly what it sounds like. He can do anything in practice that doesn’t involve contact.

He is now clear to do every movement needed in basketball. Cutting, jumping, pivoting, backpedaling, etc. The contact is added last because it can/will unexpectedly throw off your balance at times. Need to make sure the knee can do all the necessary things when under complete control first. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
 
#932      
Was wondering if anybody thinks our turnover stat on the defensive side of the ball will be better than last year.

Not sure about the stat, but the type of turnovers we get are very important as well. Live ball turnovers are the ultimate goal. Get in transition and get easy shots. It’s possible we have less turnovers but still create a bigger impact on the game in that statistic. Last year’s team wasn’t good at creating points off turnovers.
 
#933      
Not sure about the stat, but the type of turnovers we get are very important as well. Live ball turnovers are the ultimate goal. Get in transition and get easy shots. It’s possible we have less turnovers but still create a bigger impact on the game in that statistic. Last year’s team wasn’t good at creating points off turnovers.

So many turnovers forced followed by hot garbage in transition. Didn’t help we couldn’t shoot, either. Really hoping that even some small improvements there along with a (hopefully) competent big in De la Rosa will pay off.
 
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So according to SI power rankings, we are 98. That's 5th best in Illinois behind:
Loyola (25), Illinois State (68), Northwestern (74), Southern Illinois (77)
And ahead of:
DePaul (100), Bradley (120), UIC (145), EIU (222), SIUE (326), Chicago State (349)

5th best in the state! And nearly 6th if not for a toss-up with DePaul in the rankings. Obviously, SI isn't a primary source of this stuff typically so I take it with a grain of salt. But still, that hurts the pride a little bit. Still hopeful that this group can prove a bunch of people wrong this year and at least jump past SIU and Northwestern. Heck, even ISU.

It's not that bad. Also ahead of of WIU (268) and NIU (284). ;)
 
#935      
So many turnovers forced followed by hot garbage in transition. Didn’t help we couldn’t shoot, either. Really hoping that even some small improvements there along with a (hopefully) competent big in De la Rosa will pay off.
It was amazing to watch us squander easy transition opportunities last year. Decision-making was atrocious.

On the man vs. zone points- BU is going to pressure the ball. With the amount of rotation that causes on the backside, I don't see a great difference in our efforts if we play man or zone. We'd have been horrible at both last year. (And were).
 
#936      
I expect Kipper to pretty much play the 4 and that's it.
That will probably be dependent on how well Giorgi can stay out of foul trouble and how quickly De la Rosa is able to play major minutes. But even then, I expect Kipper will play some at the 5 just to see how much trouble the small ball gives the opposition. If it doesn't work one night, those minutes will obviously be minimized. However in games where its clicking, (and I think there will be games where it does)... I expect him to get quite a few minutes at the 5.
 
#937      
It was amazing to watch us squander easy transition opportunities last year. Decision-making was atrocious.

On the man vs. zone points- BU is going to pressure the ball. With the amount of rotation that causes on the backside, I don't see a great difference in our efforts if we play man or zone. We'd have been horrible at both last year. (And were).

We squandered a lot! It was hard to watch sometimes. Other times, It was pretty fun to see us mess with far superior teams when things were “clicking” on defense. Most fans look back at this game with disdain, and rightfully so, because so much of it was dreadful. The night we lost to #6 MSU Jaren Jackson Jr had 21&11 to compliment Miles Bridges 31 points. Sparty couldn’t miss. I was finished with beer #1 by the time we got our first rebound at the 10 minute mark. The 68% opponent field goal percentage set the SFC record that night. We also forced them into 25 turnovers. Underwood went on that incredible rant after half, and there’s another funny clip out there somewhere of Izzo talking about how bad we were in transition. That game was hilarious. This was all coming off a 5 game losing streak. One of the many things I take away from that game is Underwood’s Illini are either going to epically succeed, or epically fall short.
 
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GortTheRobot

North Bethesda, Maryland
Okay, I am, again, being optomistic about the upcoming season, and I do think we have a very good chance of exceeding expectations. However, if we labor through another gut-wrentching season ending with a losing record, it will be the darkest time in Illinois sports I can remember (in regards to the two main revenue sports).
 
#939      
Personally I think Giorgi will have more minutes at the 5 than he can handle and it is unlikely he plays significant minutes at the 4. With regards to Kipper, I expect he ends up covering more minutes at the 5, than he does at the 3.
Doubtful Kipper plays the three. Too many other options with Jordan, Jones and Griffin to move Kipper there. I could see maybe a small amount at the five if the need arises due to matchups/foul problems, but he will spend 95% at the four!
 
#940      
We sure are pinning a lot of hopes on seeing "good Kipper" show up at all of our games and earn the starting slot at the "4". We'll see how that works - would expect Tevian to compete pretty hard for that spot.
 
#942      
B1G is a grind and our style of play is a grind. We tend to wear down in the second half of games. i am hoping we get some good leads on the teams we should be beating and can tamper back to a zone or softer m2m. Deny pressure bball is alot of work on the defensive side and over the course of a season can wear a team down - unless of course you're sitting the bench in foul trouble much of the game.
That's why BU subs so many players in. He wants his players to give 110% on every possession and sub in players to give them a breather. That's why so many get playing time. We have to have great depth for BU style of play. And be interchangeable at positions.
 
#943      
Personally I think Giorgi will have more minutes at the 5 than he can handle and it is unlikely he plays significant minutes at the 4. With regards to Kipper, I expect he ends up covering more minutes at the 5, than he does at the 3.
Ayo (1) TF (2) DW (3) Kipper (4) Giorgi (5)
 
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That's why BU subs so many players in. He wants his players to give 110% on every possession and sub in players to give them a breather. That's why so many get playing time. We have to have great depth for BU style of play. And be interchangeable at positions.

No doubt - but at some point - you have specific guys you need to rely on at the end of the game and it helps if they still have legs. It also caused alot of fouls last year which kept people on the bench for extended periods. BU's mentioned that as an issue and with bringing the refs into practice and with the emphasis - has hopefully resolved our high foul problem.
 
#945      
No doubt - but at some point - you have specific guys you need to rely on at the end of the game and it helps if they still have legs. It also caused alot of fouls last year which kept people on the bench for extended periods. BU's mentioned that as an issue and with bringing the refs into practice and with the emphasis - has hopefully resolved our high foul problem.
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#946      
Who starts may not be the best five players but the best chemistry leaving subs who can maintain the level of play. End of game players will probably depend on circumstance, I.e. Ahead or behind, pressure or zone, who is hot, etc. Suspect even BU doesn't know those lineups at this point. I would prefer he experiment in easy games rather than just blowing out people. He has a lot of freshman but AAU ball gives a much higher level of competition coming into college than HS ball. Anxious to see the games.
 
#949      

ILL in IA

Iowa City
Ayo (1) TF (2) DW (3) Kipper (4) Giorgi (5)
The "positionless" term gets tossed around a lot and I don't know if all take it seriously, but the above lineup and position next to them is who those guys will be asked to defend.
 
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The "positionless" term gets tossed around a lot and I don't know if all take it seriously, but the above lineup and position next to them is who those guys will be asked to defend.

Unless the other team is playing positionless basketball, too. Then they'll just match up randomly on every possession.
 
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