Illini Basketball 2021-2022

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To follow that up ^^, this is what would make my tourney

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If we win B10,...which is possible... we will improve on 6 seed slot. 11 Kenpom last night. Just keep winning and expanding swagger and everything will work out. I am gunning for elite 8 this year.
.....do it guys!
 
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texillwek

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If we win B10,...which is possible... we will improve on 6 seed slot. 11 Kenpom last night. Just keep winning and expanding swagger and everything will work out. I am gunning for elite 8 this year.
.....do it guys!
Agreed! I was more referencing moving to the Midwest region so we'd play in Chicago
 
#30      

The Galloping Ghost

Washington, DC
Wow, was just looking at Wooden Mid-season list and no Kofi.
Uh, he's of course on there.

• Wooden Award Midseason Top 25 honoree Kofi Cockburn is the nation's second-leading scorer at 22.5 ppg and ranks third in the NCAA in rebounding at 11.9 rpg.

Full list:
 
#31      
Uh, he's of course on there.

• Wooden Award Midseason Top 25 honoree Kofi Cockburn is the nation's second-leading scorer at 22.5 ppg and ranks third in the NCAA in rebounding at 11.9 rpg.

Full list:

The "note" they have next to the stats of each player are pretty cool, until you get to Hutch's :cry:. I mean, they could have dropped in something about his basketball career. After all, they put in high school honors for the freshmen.

I guess Lieb's is also king of funny or sad, depending on your point of view ("Career-high 4 points vs St. Francis Pa.")
 
#32      
Always amused by two players from same team and position (Edey and Williams) nominated for award. It’s not like they play together at any time so it would be a part time starter for either. If Giorgi was a coach’s problem this is much worse to have two such talents and not be able to harness them together. Kudos to Painter for being able to retain both from the transfer portal.
 
#33      
Not sure where to put this, but this is a great article on Mizzou's dire situation. So for that reason alone, it's a great read.

But more importantly, I love the analysis. I'd love if someone more gifted than I were able to do a similar analysis of Illinois...

 
#34      

sacraig

The desert
Not sure where to put this, but this is a great article on Mizzou's dire situation. So for that reason alone, it's a great read.

But more importantly, I love the analysis. I'd love if someone more gifted than I were able to do a similar analysis of Illinois...

There is a lot to be desired here, especially based on quantities they used for normalization. But I am not about to go back in there and mess with it since they didn't provide their compiled data and I don't want to have to download all of the items separately and on my own.

At the end of the day, they should have been normalizing by median budget in each conference, not nationally. The majority of a team's games are within their conference so the correlation will likely be strongest with how they compare to their conference foes.
 
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There is a lot to be desired here, especially based on quantities they used for normalization. But I am not about to go back in there and mess with it since they didn't provide their compiled data and I don't want to have to download all of the items separately and on my own.

At the end of the day, they should have been normalizing by median budget in each conference, not nationally. The majority of a team's games are within their conference so the correlation will likely be strongest with how they compare to their conference foes.

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There is a lot to be desired here, especially based on quantities they used for normalization. But I am not about to go back in there and mess with it since they didn't provide their compiled data and I don't want to have to download all of the items separately and on my own.

At the end of the day, they should have been normalizing by median budget in each conference, not nationally. The majority of a team's games are within their conference so the correlation will likely be strongest with how they compare to their conference foes.
Here is the financial part for 2019. Illinois spent about $10.5M


All the numbers come from the Department of Higher Ed website - I imagine someone has pulled all them down and has something up on the web about it.
 
#37      

Bigtex

DFW
Not sure where to put this, but this is a great article on Mizzou's dire situation. So for that reason alone, it's a great read.

But more importantly, I love the analysis. I'd love if someone more gifted than I were able to do a similar analysis of Illinois...

Good read thanks for sharing. Would be interesting to see big10 numbers and specifically Illinois numbers
 
#38      

frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
For those that have better memories than I do:

What did Shaquille O'Neal do in his 2 years at LSU that Kofi cannot do? Not saying that Kofi is an all-time NBA guy, but at this point in their college careers, was there a huge difference? Further hammering home how much the NBA game has changed.
 
#39      
So is Dainja still awaiting clearance to join the team until his admissions processing is completed and approved? Or is that accomplished already and he can join practices only once next semester begins?
 
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blackdog

Champaign
For those that have better memories than I do:

What did Shaquille O'Neal do in his 2 years at LSU that Kofi cannot do? Not saying that Kofi is an all-time NBA guy, but at this point in their college careers, was there a huge difference? Further hammering home how much the NBA game has changed.

Shaq had 3 years but his soph year was slighty better. I love Kofi but Shaq was even more explosive and skilled. Shaq was a better passer and also averaged 5 blocks per game. As crazy as Kofis efficieny numbers are Shaq averaged more points on a slightly higher percentage.

Still put Kofi back 20 years and he is a top 3 pick easily and probably a focal point of an NBA franchise.
 
#41      

pruman91

Paducah, Ky
Shaq had 3 years but his soph year was slighty better. I love Kofi but Shaq was even more explosive and skilled. Shaq was a better passer and also averaged 5 blocks per game. As crazy as Kofis efficieny numbers are Shaq averaged more points on a slightly higher percentage.

Still put Kofi back 20 years and he is a top 3 pick easily and probably a focal point of an NBA franchise.
Kofi definitely is a better FT shooter than Shaq was......................Hack-a-Shaq was a big thing back then......
 
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blackdog

Champaign
Kofi definitely is a better FT shooter than Shaq was......................Hack-a-Shaq was a big thing back then......
This year definitely which is awesome. Last year's numbers not so much. I honestly think Kofi in 5 years has the potential to be amazingly better than he is now simply because of how new he is still is to basketball relative to most other guys and we've already seen how much better he's gotten year to year.
 
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This year definitely which is awesome. Last year's numbers not so much. I honestly think Kofi in 5 years has the potential to be amazingly better than he is now simply because of how new he is still is to basketball relative to most other guys and we've already seen how much better he's gotten year to year.
Think Kofi is definitely has continued to make significant improvement. He is not only passing out of the post, but he is now faking passing out of the post when he is doubled. He no longer misses many bunnies like in past years. He now takes it up with authority and dunks it. That was especially apparent tonight in the second half. His hook shot from 8 feet has been deadly. Not sure what else he needs to do to be NBA ready, but maybe when Curbelo comes back he starts pick and popping, lol.
 
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Shaq had 3 years but his soph year was slighty better. I love Kofi but Shaq was even more explosive and skilled. Shaq was a better passer and also averaged 5 blocks per game. As crazy as Kofis efficieny numbers are Shaq averaged more points on a slightly higher percentage.

Still put Kofi back 20 years and he is a top 3 pick easily and probably a focal point of an NBA franchise.

Agree. Kofi IMO is the best player in the nation, but Shaq was bigger and more explosive with way longer arms. But Kofi is a better FT shooter.
 
#46      
Shaq had 3 years but his soph year was slighty better. I love Kofi but Shaq was even more explosive and skilled. Shaq was a better passer and also averaged 5 blocks per game. As crazy as Kofis efficieny numbers are Shaq averaged more points on a slightly higher percentage.

Still put Kofi back 20 years and he is a top 3 pick easily and probably a focal point of an NBA franchise.

Go watch Shaq highlights from his final year in LSU and first two years in Orlando before he started gaining weight.

Generational talent with his size and athleticism, there was no stopping him.

If somebody posts them, even better!
 
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frozenrope9190

Aurora, IL
Shaq had 3 years but his soph year was slighty better. I love Kofi but Shaq was even more explosive and skilled. Shaq was a better passer and also averaged 5 blocks per game. As crazy as Kofis efficieny numbers are Shaq averaged more points on a slightly higher percentage.

Still put Kofi back 20 years and he is a top 3 pick easily and probably a focal point of an NBA franchise.
Thank you. Just what I was looking for. Shaq went to college about the same time I did, and although I remember how dominant he was, I wasnt quite the collge hoops junkie i am now.
 
#49      

danielb927

Orange Krush Class of 2013
Rochester, MN
FWIW, Torvik now has us with a >50% chance of at least a share of the B1G title, with a 1 in 3 chance of a solo title.

Sorry to not have my usual B1G tourney seeding odds charts to share this season. There are so many good sites and systems out there now (KenPom, Bart Torvik, NET, etc.) that I've decided to focus on creating a similar predictive ranking system for women's college volleyball, where RPI is still heavily used and it will (I hope) have some more added value.
 
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Chad Fleck

Eureka, IL
I mean this is with the utmost respect, but fired up Kofi legitimately reminds me of the way King Kong is portrayed. I love it.

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