Illini Basketball 2022-2023

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Bigtex

DFW
Also, CH will be more valuable at the 5 this year because we have more dynamic scorers. CH will pull bigs out of the paint and we have more guys that can take advantage of that this year.
That is assuming hawk hits a reasonable number of outside shots. If hawk hit 35% of his 3’s it opens up the lane. If his % remains the same as last year Others will look at the Houston film and decide defensive schemes.

Recognize roster is completely turned over and new roster will be better at taking the ball to the hoop, beating their man 1x1, and at best their 3 point percentage will be equal to last years team

Agree the potential of this team is higher than last years team
 
#232      
Also, CH will be more valuable at the 5 this year because we have more dynamic scorers. CH will pull bigs out of the paint and we have more guys that can take advantage of that this year.
This will work as long as our bigs shoot well from the perimeter....if shots aren't falling then it will be one and done....very little offensive rebounding for 2nd chance pts
 
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That is assuming hawk hits a reasonable number of outside shots. If hawk hit 35% of his 3’s it opens up the lane. If his % remains the same as last year Others will look at the Houston film and decide defensive schemes.

Recognize roster is completely turned over and new roster will be better at taking the ball to the hoop, beating their man 1x1, and at best their 3 point percentage will be equal to last years team

Agree the potential of this team is higher than last years team
This point is so critical. Hawkins is not a power player and absolutely needs to be able to hit a dependable and high percentage from 25 ft and in, especially pull-ups around the free throw line. Last year he would shoot stationery/unguarded threes and made some...but was far from a threat. I do not recall a single drive and pull-up from 12 ft. which was open to him all year. It takes repetition and confidence with a little technical work on his release but he can be a dependable shooter. When added to his quickness, handle, and willingness to give up the ball to open teammates he definitely has the game to make and NBA roster. If he can become a much better shooter and continue to improve his strengths, he can be the star of this team and open up his future as a basketball player.

The coaches know these points as fact and I am sure are working hard to build CH's skills and confidence. It takes very little time for a player to have the light click on...but the path to that light is long and requires a lot more time and effort that few 20 y/o kids can grasp or are willing to embrace. And yet many of them do so every year....or a few depending on your viewpoint. Most don't. I lean towards Hawkins being one that will get there in time, but maturity, self-image, confidence, and fortitude things we don't know. BU does though. Let's hope he can build CH into a star.
 
#234      

Joel Goodson

respect my decision™
Hawkins:
1) has a big season and goes pro;
2) has an ok season and transfers; or
3) has an ok season and stays

No idea how his season will go, but I'm thinking option 3 is less probable than the others, perhaps far less.
 
#235      
Hawkins:
1) has a big season and goes pro;
2) has an ok season and transfers; or
3) has an ok season and stays

No idea how his season will go, but I'm thinking option 3 is less probable than the others, perhaps far less.
Agreed, it's sad but I feel like there is a very high chance this is his last season here.
 
#237      
Long shots usually lead to long rebounds. We are going to have length all over the court. I doubt rebounding will be a huge issue.
All the same I'd love to get the Perrin kid. Haugh (sp?) looks very athletic but needs a prep school/red shirt year to add strength for the rigors of the Big Ten. Keeping two schollies open during next year is one too many when there's a need. Of course, maybe Lieb will THE guy, and of course the coaches are aware of all this.

Just a conversation continuer... and we DON'T need Bates!
 
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we'd get called for all the reach-in fouls inside and for all the perimiter contact on the guards.
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#241      
This all being said-- I LOVE this team! They are so athletic and talented. I think the Skyy and Ty show is going to take the Big10 by storm. And don't sleep on Epps or Harris; they will run people off the court! Melendez and Goode with one more year will take leaps in their games. And the new upper-classmen are flat-out hound dogs that will apply tournequit-like pressure as well. The development of big men will be key, but no team is perfect...however...

I CANT'T WAIT TIL THIS NOVEMBER!!
 
#242      
Hawkins:
1) has a big season and goes pro;
2) has an ok season and transfers; or
3) has an ok season and stays

No idea how his season will go, but I'm thinking option 3 is less probable than the others, perhaps far less.
Would rather see RJ, Mayer and Skyy taking the shots so I see #1 as less likely. CH adds value by hitting the boards, playing good switching D and by being a safety valve 4th option scorer.
 
#245      

CoalCity

St Paul, MN
That is assuming hawk hits a reasonable number of outside shots. If hawk hit 35% of his 3’s it opens up the lane. If his % remains the same as last year Others will look at the Houston film and decide defensive schemes.

Recognize roster is completely turned over and new roster will be better at taking the ball to the hoop, beating their man 1x1, and at best their 3 point percentage will be equal to last years team

Agree the potential of this team is higher than last years team
100%. Coleman has to hit those open 3's when the defense dorks him. If he does, look out for the cutters and slashers having room to operate in the lane. If he doesn't...well...
 
#247      
All the same I'd love to get the Perrin kid. Haugh (sp?) looks very athletic but needs a prep school/red shirt year to add strength for the rigors of the Big Ten. Keeping two schollies open during next year is one too many when there's a need. Of course, maybe Lieb will THE guy, and of course the coaches are aware of all this.

Just a conversation continuer... and we DON'T need Bates!
IMO keeping two schollies open verges on coach malpractice. This last year is a perfect example of how injuries can deplete you - we started with 14 scholarship players yet we had depth problems (especially in the backcourt) for much of the season. If you can add a PF/C who has any chance of helping, you gotta do it. Another guard wouldn't be a bad idea either, though not as worried there because guards can typically play >35 min/game if necessary.
 
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skyIdub

Winged Warrior
IMO keeping two schollies open verges on coach malpractice. This last year is a perfect example of how injuries can deplete you - we started with 14 scholarship players yet we had depth problems (especially in the backcourt) for much of the season. If you can add a PF/C who has any chance of helping, you gotta do it. Another guard wouldn't be a bad idea either, though not as worried there because guards can typically play >35 min/game if necessary.

It just doesn't work like this anymore. You can't keep that many kids happy.

Also, with the new transfer world you have to have a spot open for a mid season wild turkey surprise.

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