Illini Basketball 2022-2023

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For some reason as I was reading this, a name popped into my head- Trent flipping Frazier.

I'm so excited to see Skyy but, man, Trent's impact on this program was absolutely huge and hopefully will never be forgotten. He and DMW were the glue that tied things together, bought in 110%, and led by example and now look where we are

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Where is Trent these days? Anybody knows?
 
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France just beat Italy, finished with one loss and 5th place. Thought they were the most talented team in tourny. Perrin averaged 14 pts. for tourny, best prospect on team might be Cissoko who is going straight to G league and projected 1st rounder next year.

I see Perrin in rotation until proven otherwise. Possibly to give Coleman and Dainja a breather at the 4/5 spot.
 
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France just beat Italy, finished with one loss and 5th place. Thought they were the most talented team in tourny. Perrin averaged 14 pts. for tourny, best prospect on team might be Cissoko who is going straight to G league and projected 1st rounder next year.

I see Perrin in rotation until proven otherwise. Possibly to give Coleman and Dainja a breather at the 4/5 spot.
Strange to have only 1 loss and end up in 5th place unless it's based on total points scored or something else.
 
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Joel Goodson

dawgville
Thanks, just remembered that. Anyway, Perrin should be an elite addition to an already elite team.

Might take him a little time, but I think he'll contribute. The only question is how much? He's walking into a really good development situation: there isn't going to be pressure to immediately perform. I think he's coming in ahead of where Coleman was as a frosh, plus he's a ~year younger. A year with Fletch and in the program, and look out.
 
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#169      
Perrin strikes me as a player with little emotion in the game and I mean it in a good way. Like the type who will not get inside his own head. A never nervous Pervous type.
 
#171      
I understand the “qualifications”, but greatness isn’t always defined by THOSE qualifications.
Listen, Trent is an all time favorite of mine, but he is not an all time great. Yes, he was here for five seasons which added to his stats, but until Ayo and Kofi came along, the team was pretty bad. He was here for the good seasons as a complementary player. He was very streaky on offense but his defense always played. I went to Kansas City and Trent was 0 for the tourney (0-19 actually). All time greats do not do that.

You could go through each decade and find a player like him, a tough, gritty fighter who helped his team win. Matt Heldman was one and there is an award named after him even if he is not good enough for the rafters. I agree that maybe an award could be named after Trent, however if Kiwane Garris, the second leading scorer in Illinois history and a better player than Trent is not in the rafters, then neither should Trent.

Again, I’m a huge fan of Trent’s, but the rafters are for the stars. That’s why Ayo and Kofi will be there.
 
#172      
He was very streaky on offense but his defense always played. I went to Kansas City and Trent was 0 for the tourney (0-19 actually). All time greats do not do that.

Again, I’m a huge fan of Trent’s, but the rafters are for the stars. That’s why Ayo and Kofi will be there.
I understand where you are coming from and largely agree with your POV. And yes, we never want anyone to go 0-19. But Ayo and Kofi also had some lackluster performances under the brightest of lights, and they had a better supporting cast around them. Trent had many games and big shots where he looked like an AA.

But I think we could all agree, we'd take those 3 on our squad any day.
 
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adogster

Scottsdale, AZ
Listen, Trent is an all time favorite of mine, but he is not an all time great. Yes, he was here for five seasons which added to his stats, but until Ayo and Kofi came along, the team was pretty bad. He was here for the good seasons as a complementary player. He was very streaky on offense but his defense always played. I went to Kansas City and Trent was 0 for the tourney (0-19 actually). All time greats do not do that.

You could go through each decade and find a player like him, a tough, gritty fighter who helped his team win. Matt Heldman was one and there is an award named after him even if he is not good enough for the rafters. I agree that maybe an award could be named after Trent, however if Kiwane Garris, the second leading scorer in Illinois history and a better player than Trent is not in the rafters, then neither should Trent.

Again, I’m a huge fan of Trent’s, but the rafters are for the stars. That’s why Ayo and Kofi will be there.bes
Not to quibble, especially since I’m a great Combes fan and his storied historical perspective. I don’t argue he was great by the stated required standards, my sensitivities were arroused when you said he wasn’t great. Period. He was great as a program embassador, great as leader, great holding the program together during tough times, great showing others what toughness was when injured, and most importantly I don’t argue argue he should be in the rafters. I just choose to remember him as “great”
 
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