Illini Basketball 2023-2024
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Homecoming 2019
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Something I'm curious about FT shooting. Last year the team was 309th, I believe. The Spain games were horrendous, but looking somewhat arbitrarily at guys with at least 40 attempts as a cut-off, it seems like there are some bad shooters, but the roster overall isn't too bad:
Gone:
83% Melendez (gone)
78% Epps (gone)
74% Mayer (gone)
Returning/New
79% TSJ
61% Hawkins
53% Dain
88% Domask (new)
58% Guerrier (new)
73% Harmon (new)
DGL TBD at the college level, but I assume as a guard he's decent. Don't know much about AH. Goode we know is a shooter even though he was out.
Gone:
83% Melendez (gone)
78% Epps (gone)
74% Mayer (gone)
Returning/New
79% TSJ
61% Hawkins
53% Dain
88% Domask (new)
58% Guerrier (new)
73% Harmon (new)
DGL TBD at the college level, but I assume as a guard he's decent. Don't know much about AH. Goode we know is a shooter even though he was out.
Shooting is said to be a strength for DGL. Across his 10 Overtime Elite games he shot 75% on 3.2 attempts per game He also shot 39% from three as a volume shooter (8 attempts per game).
As the season gets closer it's looking more and more to me that Domask is going to be the variable that determines whether we compete for the big10 title or are middle of the pack. We know what we are going to get from TSJ, Hawk and Dain. Our point gaurd play will most likely be a push, some games it will be an advantage for us and others a disadvantage. If Domask can do all the things for us that he did at SIU we will be a solid top 15 team. Not saying putting up the same numbers as we have much more talent around him than SIU did but being able to play at the same level will be a hell of a complement to Shannon and Hawkins. I know some people are quick to point out that he did that while at an MVC school but they should also take into account the he has been pretty much the main focus of every team they played his entire time at SIU.
We’ve already seen that with the Spain trip threads and talk. They are playing halfway across the world, with a different ball, on a different length of 3pt line, on 10? practices together and people are already saying we’re the same exact team as last year.
Not to mention, one of the key players that is supposed to help out shooting numbers didn’t play at all.
skyIdub
Winged Warrior
Lol...one day this team goes as Ty goes....the next day it's this team goes as DGL goes....today this team goes as....Domask goes?
This might be the deepest team BU has had. Let's have some popcorn and enjoy the show. This team is not going to be middle of the pack because of one player. Come on.
This might be the deepest team BU has had. Let's have some popcorn and enjoy the show. This team is not going to be middle of the pack because of one player. Come on.
I'm expecting a much improved Dain, as he is in increasingly better condition and lighter which should improve his spring and his stamina. Last season was his first competitive experience in several years, and I'm hoping for "sophomore" leap from him. Both Cohawk an TSJ came back to work on their perceived weaknesses and all around game to improve their draft position. I expect improved play from both of them, especially if there is offensive cohesion and unselfish play.
Both of our freshman could also considerably outplay our expectations. By the end of the year Hansberry may be a key contributor. A lot of reasons for optimism.
Think if we play unselfishly, rebound & don't turn it over..we have enough talent to win 26+ games.
drsmitty74
- Rochester
No offense, but a LOT of teams have a chance at those numbers if you accomplish those three tasks.
Out of the 14 Big Ten teams last season, only 1 team won more than 23 games (Purdue). Let alone 26 or more.
We've won more than 26 games only three times in program history (89, 01 and 05). I'd be very surprised if this team does it.
Joel Goodson
- ties will be resolved
Decidedly not a big Cal guy (and he hurts his case w/the 26/27 yo reference), but there's a stuff ton of truth here:
The numbers of portal players not finding a new home needs more analysis. It wouldn't surprise me that a lot of those are a result of creaning. Let's say a P5 pushes out a sophomore. He looks for a new home in a conference like the A10. Those coaches weigh him against some of the potential high school players and opt for that.
One relatively easy analysis would be years of players under scholarship.
This is sadly how equilibrium in portal movement comes... The tide will turn back as many in the future who would be tempted to move look around and start to see others waiting in the winds and decide maybe I don't need to go anywhere.
Development isn't a long-term thing anymore AFAICT. If you go back to when players routinely stayed at the same school, you saw coaches think about development differently --investing more PT on younger players over more than a single season, so they wouldn't be as green in future seasons. I don't believe anyone thinks that way now with the way players and coaches move around. I guess all I'm saying is that it's a 2-way street. If the schools aren't loyal, the players won't be, and any perceived problem that comes from that can't be wished away. People can complain about it, but unless it's enough of a problem that the schools offer more reasons for the sides not to shop around, I don't see anything changing.
My point is different. What if you're at a school and told to leave and can't find a new home. While some of these folks left of their own volition, I would bet a ton were politely asked to leave.
A much bigger percentage will find homes when the covid players are gone. I wish they hadn't made that extra year effective for the kids who were freshmen and sophs during the covid year.
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