Illini Basketball 2023-2024

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Former school board member here. Many of the grade school/ jr. high, gyms were floored with tile. Those tile contained asbestos. It was cheaper to carpet, than to do an asbestos removal. If any tile even cracked you were forced to bring in a team to remove them. Asbestos tile were also used in alot of classrooms, which lead to carpeted classrooms over old tile.
 
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InDaAZ

Eugene, Oregon
Former school board member here. Many of the grade school/ jr. high, gyms were floored with tile. Those tile contained asbestos. It was cheaper to carpet, than to do an asbestos removal. If any tile even cracked you were forced to bring in a team to remove them. Asbestos tile were also used in alot of classrooms, which lead to carpeted classrooms over old tile.
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As we seem to be traveling in the way-back machine:
One of my grade school “gyms” had ceiling support poles in the playing area - rang my bell on those more than once! 😖
 
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Ryllini

Lombard
Former school board member here. Many of the grade school/ jr. high, gyms were floored with tile. Those tile contained asbestos. It was cheaper to carpet, than to do an asbestos removal. If any tile even cracked you were forced to bring in a team to remove them. Asbestos tile were also used in alot of classrooms, which lead to carpeted classrooms over old tile.
Mitford off of route 1 in East Central Illinois had a carpet court. Can't remember if it was their junior high or highschool.
 
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For those who think BU doesn’t warrant his pay. Woodson has not had much March success but got a raise for making the tournament two years in a row
 
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For those who think BU doesn’t warrant his pay. Woodson has not had much March success but got a raise for making the tournament two years in a row
And the first time did he even technically make it, losing a play-in game by a billion points? 😂
 
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For those who think BU doesn’t warrant his pay. Woodson has not had much March success but got a raise for making the tournament two years in a row
to be fair he still gets paid less that Underwood at $4.6 mil. Brad is #2 behind Izzo.
 
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For those who think BU doesn’t warrant his pay. Woodson has not had much March success but got a raise for making the tournament two years in a row
The pay is warranted but the increased pay comes with increased expectations. Just making the tournament isn't enough for Woodson or BU.
 
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The pay is warranted but the increased pay comes with increased expectations. Just making the tournament isn't enough for Woodson or BU.
While this take is more than fair, I would argue that Illini fans are slightly better than Indiana fans at taking a more intellectual and less emotional approach to judging a coach's circumstances ... even if just by a tiny margin! Indiana fans expect new coaches to waltz in there and quickly win because "they're Indiana" or some other BS. We were pretty patient with Underwood early on, because we understood that Groce left him a mess.

Even with our frustration at not getting to a Sweet Sixteen, MOST of our fans are somewhat logical about it. 2020 was an opportunity stolen from us, but it was stolen from everybody (even if it hurt us at a worse time for program trajectory than most). 2021 was an abject failure given how good we were, but upsets happen; still, that one is clearly and obviously counted against Underwood. 2022 is a "par" to most normal observers ... we hung a Big Ten championship banner, and we lost a pick 'em 4/5 matchup in the Second Round. The 2022 Second Round loss is not comparable to the 2021 Second Round loss in any way, shape or form.

Last season is a bit more difficult to judge. The pessimistic view is that we had too much talent to be that bad, and Underwood's construction of our roster led to the chemistry issues that sunk what could have been another top 25 season. The optimistic view is that we lost ALL FIVE of our starters and still managed to assemble a roster that had us ranked preseason and our fans expecting more high-level results because Underwood has built up our program to that level of expectations again. The answer is likely somewhere in the middle, which is why this year is going to be huge. We will have a team with clear top 25 potential, and the alleged "causes" of our team chemistry issues last season are gone. The Tournament will always be a crapshoot, but we are more than due for a stroke of luck here or there, so it's time to get to the Second Weekend or possibly conclude it's Underwood's coaching style that cannot get there. That goes hand in hand with having a good enough season to earn a decent seed and not doom ourselves with an excessively difficult path like last year.
 
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Ignatius Shang

5th year PhD, school of Information Sciences
Champaign, IL
A little irrelevant, but Andres Feliz just scored 24 points (7/10 from downtown) alongside Karl-Anthony Towns, leading Dominican Republic an impressive win against Italy (who is a clear favorite in the game) in FIBA world cup.
So happy for him and astonished that he can shot so well now lol.
 
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On the topic of carpeted basketball floors, the old jr. high in Rushville still had a carpeted floor and I played on it in 7th grade (so this would have been about 1997 or 1998). One of my teammates, who was our hustle player, had a lot of rug burns and elbow burns after that game from diving for loose balls. That ended up being the only year we played on it as the new jr. high opened the next year and we played in the new gym.
 
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Should we have a full schedule by now. Any insight on when we might see it?
 
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once an Illini, always an Illini:
if Harmon can play similar to what Feliz gave us, that would be pretty good
It certainly would be great, but I'm fairly skeptical Harmon will play a role anywhere similar to Feliz or be capable of putting up similar numbers. Plus, Harmon would need to vastly improve his efficiency and turnover rate, and defense to get to Feliz's level, all with a step up in competition. I just can't see it happening. That said, I hope it does and love the optimism.
 
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