RabidDawgClassic
- Los Angeles, CA
Fat chance. Booth doesn't even have 20pts on the season. Of the two, I think Jake has the best shot to do it (pun intended)
Illini Basketball 2024-2025
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Nobody said that as far as I can tell. I certainly did not.
I'm not sure what your point is. No one ever claimed it was. Keep strawman'ing though.
No one said that. Absolutely no one. You're arguing with yourself.
What was said is that our volume of 3 point shooting, even while it being average, is a huge reason for our very good offensive efficiency.
Let me walk this back for you:
The original post said: "We are a 3pt shooting team with so so 3p% (32% as a team). This really limits our offense efficiency."
My response was that the bolded statement can be taken more negatively than it should be, without proper context.
I provided the context that it's our 3rd best offense in the the last 30 years and "The offense is designed to get us easy looks inside, to get to the line and allows for more offensive rebounds so even at 32%, we are incredibly efficient because of what the threat of shooting 3s opens up for the offense."
I credited rebounding, which is partially due to personnel and partially due to taking (and missing) so many 3s. Taking so many 3s also allows us to get better/easier looks around the rim because the floor is spaced very well and the lane is relatively unclogged.
The same argument can be made if we make more of our layups. We're also pedestrian at finishing at the rim. The big difference between us and Alabama is their ability to finish around the rim. Our shot charts look very similar.
Here is a comparison between us and Alabama.
3PA/FGA (rank)
Illinois - 48.3% (27th)
Alabama 48.6% (19th)
3PT%
Illinois - 33.2% (191st)
Alabama - 32.0% (252nd)
Off. Reb. %
Illinois - 36.2% (25th)
Alabama - 37.2% (19th)
2PT%
Illinois - 56.1% (52nd)
Alabama - 61.4% (3rd)
Adj. Off. Eff.
Illinois - 119.2 (20th)
Alabama - 123.6 (7th)
me either, but I could definitely watch her talk hoops all day. Very strong NL potential right there.
Yeah, we're really similar to Bama. Wish we played them a little later in the season.
Difference of course between improving layups and improving threes, is threes are worth more and we shoot a high volume. So a small improvement makes a bigger impact.
Example, a 2% improvement in threes would result in about a 3 point per 100 possession improvement while a 2% improvement in twos would result in a less than 2 point per 100 possession improvement.
But really, my main point is that 3p% is the one area at which we don't currently excel offensively (well that and ft rate). 2p% is pretty good. So, if we're talking about what levers to pull to truly put us over the top, personally, I would start with the 3 point line.
Could have sworn someone claimed our high 2pt% was the driver of our offensive efficiency. Guess I just screenshotted this from the inside of my imagination
Um that was me commenting about your statement where you argued that our efficiency was low because we are 178th in 2pt shots attempts. Which isn't true.
Sorry but this is 100% incorrect. I've never said our efficiency was low. It is very high. Just not because we're drilling a ton of 2s at a high percentage, because we aren't.
Well I reread the post I responded to and I'm still not getting your argument. So I will chalk it up to my reading comprehension. But nothing I said is incorrect except my interpretation of your orginal post.
viking6888
Greeley, Colorado
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Just read ESPN’s updated 100 NBA college ratings. The Illini have 5 players in the Top 100: KJ (5), Riley (28), Tomi (50), Ben (68) and Kylan (89).
Only Duke has more with 6, Kentucky and Arkansas (yes, Arkansas) each have 5, Alabama has 3 and the only other teams with multiple are Michigan, Rutgers, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Arizona, Gonzaga, UConn and Texas Tech with 2 apiece.
Only Duke has more with 6, Kentucky and Arkansas (yes, Arkansas) each have 5, Alabama has 3 and the only other teams with multiple are Michigan, Rutgers, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Arizona, Gonzaga, UConn and Texas Tech with 2 apiece.
Huh. No Auburn?
Only one I saw was Broome
DICKnaggie
- Champaign
Just dreaming, but can you imagine our rebounding with TR and Morez in a game at the same time? We are already so good on the boards, but wow...
Joel Goodson
- how was I to know, she was with the Russians too?
not wrong:
ILLINI IN NE
- Omaha,Ne.
I was not the biggest DGL fan after his first season, I thought he was a bit of a chucker, and I wasn't impressed with his defense either. I am a big fan now and not just because of his improved scoring and defense, the fire he brings when he plays is what changed my opinion. He shows more emotion on the court than anyone else and I love to see it.
ginabackes00
CrazedUIFan
Defensively he continues to improve, but I think his biggest growth has been containing his emotions and not trying to do too much. He's playing more within the offense.
Freshmen do freshmen things...like evolve into serviceable or even good/great players.
I always like players who can both shoot and slash so yes I have been a fan. Now he just needs to prove to me that he can keep his 3p%, say, north of 33%.
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