Illini Basketball 2024-2025

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We are now #15 on kenpom, two notches above Mich. State. It seems like Pomeroy has replaced Jeff Sagarin. Jeff deserves a lot of credit for introducing fans to a new mode of rankings. For instance, his system was the first to factor in strength of schedule and location of games (home and away). I enjoy the Pomeroy rankings, but miss Sagarin. Is he retired? Still living? In good health?
 
#502      
I am not sure of the Ben hate - he has been inconsistent but is still shooting about 35% from 3 - he was 4-9 game before last from 3. He was the only one that came to play in the USC game - without Ben that would have been much worse if that is possible. It is easy to be down on him after a bad game. He was bad offensively in the Maryland and Nebby games, so I understand the recency bias, but this has also been when Tomi is out. I think he has been rushing his shot because with Tomi out, because he isn't getting open looks to the same degree as he would with Tomi in. Tomi's return will be huge for this team, and for Ben specifically.

And the idea of playing DGL instead of Ben seems problematic to me - DGL is 6'1" while Ben is 6'9". I understand the idea of positionless, but that isn't really apples and apples.
I’ve mostly defended BH, but at this point in season, we can look at Ben’s game log and see he’s put up 11 stinkers this year. That’s not good enough. With that said, I genuinely believe if he can put together a solid game or two in the tournament and contribute to wins when it matters, a lot will be forgiven. Same can be said for Riley.
 
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I’ve mostly defended BH, but at this point in season, we can look at Ben’s game log and see he’s put up 11 stinkers this year. That’s not good enough. With that said, I genuinely believe if he can put together a solid game or two in the tournament and contribute to wins when it matters, a lot will be forgiven. Same can be said for Riley.
I don't know the answer. But we are 9-2 when BH makes at least two threes and we are 5-5 when he doesn't.

My eyes tell me Riley is probably the better option right now but I think it's closer than it looks on first blush. When Riley scores in double figures we're 5-5. And all 5 of those wins came in buy games. So, I don't know that we play better as a team when Riley is more involved.

It would be nice if Ben could just do what we brought him here to do and make a couple open threes a game.
 
#504      
So far this board has oscillated, over the course of this season, between thinking Ben is terrible, to thinking he’s great and the key to our season, and back to thinking he’s terrible. I expect the roller coaster to continue and for Ben to string together some good games now that everybody is sufficiently down on him.
 
#505      
Do you really think k the Illini would have got to the elite with R J? He was very average at Baylor.
 
#507      
Like Goode last year, bring BH off the bench to see if he can hit some big threes. Less pressure on him since he's not starting.
 
#512      
Last I checked ray j never committed to Illinois. Fears veballed and committed to Illinois. When fears wanted to reclassify (right after taking Riley), it seems like Illinois staff said limited playing time in 24-25 for a talented guard

He wanted to be 'the guy' aka AJ Storr, RJ Dennis, et al from what I understood

He nope'd out just a couple weeks after KJ committed
 
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#514      
Just to be fair to him, Ayo also came in with an expectation of being "the guy" and that worked out OK for all parties. Wanting to be "the guy" is not necessarily a character flaw. Just means it wasn't a good fit.

Oh 100 percent, agree. He is a really good player and is actually likely to be drafted in the 1st round. I mean really that reason alone causes doubt that it was Illinois pushing him out as much as it was him looking at other situations after KJ committed.
 
#515      
if you could take any former illini player all time and copy paste them into this years team, who would help the most?
 
#518      
if you could take any former illini player all time and copy paste them into this years team, who would help the most?
Considering egos and roles, and excluding superstars, Coleman taking Ben’s minutes would be a huge boost. His versatility, floor spacing, and defensive switchability would provide much-needed depth in the frontcourt when Tomi rests.

Beyond his skill, Hawkins brings leadership and continuity -- something this team is lacking (though DGL is starting to pick up the mantle).

Giorgi Bezhanishvili would also make an impact now that Tomi and Morez are starting together (amazing!), as he could step in if foul trouble arises.

All to say, not a huge fan of Carey Booth...
 
#519      
if you could take any former illini player all time and copy paste them into this years team, who would help the most?
Cory Bradford
Fun question..the obvious answers are our superstars: Frankie, Deron, Dee, Augie, Cook, Ayo, Kofi, TSJ..

Bradford as a shooter would help.
Plummer would be great.

Roger at the 4.

Cook would be ideal as a big 4 man that can shoot.
 
#521      
Fun question..the obvious answers are our superstars: Frankie, Deron, Dee, Augie, Cook, Ayo, Kofi, TSJ..

Bradford as a shooter would help.
Plummer would be great.

Roger at the 4.

Cook would be ideal as a big 4 man that can shoot.
Nice list.
 
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Nick Weatherspoon was REALLY GOOD. His career averages of 20.9 points per game and 11.4 rebounds per game have stood as Illini school records for the past 35 years.
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#523      
Fun question..the obvious answers are our superstars: Frankie, Deron, Dee, Augie, Cook, Ayo, Kofi, TSJ..

Bradford as a shooter would help.
Plummer would be great.

Roger at the 4.

Cook would be ideal as a big 4 man that can shoot.
Yeah I think his kind of size, strength, and versatility is what they’re missing most.
A mobile big that can: post up, and D up, and step out and shoot, would be ideal.

We’ve had so many great guards in program history…but this team is guard heavy. Cook would be perfect. He’s a power forward type that would blend well with the free flowing 5-out and 4-1 stuff Brad wants to do.
 
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#524      
Fun question..the obvious answers are our superstars: Frankie, Deron, Dee, Augie, Cook, Ayo, Kofi, TSJ..

Bradford as a shooter would help.
Plummer would be great.

Roger at the 4.

Cook would be ideal as a big 4 man that can shoot.
Great question and lots of nice tries but the answer is always Kenny Battle....
 
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