Illini Basketball 2026-2027

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Unlike many on here, the more frequent we rely on Mirk to bring the ball up the court or play de facto pg duties, expect opposing defensive coaches to attack him with quicker and handsy defenders.

In one of the videos, Coleman ripped him…actually straight up took it from him.

Feel like Houston did that, and he just picked them a part on passes over the top and back downs.
 
#228      
With Vaaks, I think the shot selection will be reigned in by more than a tad bit



And most of the time I expect Mirk to back that defender into the paint for a layup
And we saw Mirk back people down from anywhere outside the post how many times last year?
 
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Coleman showed himself to be an absolute pest at the u17s. I dunno how far that clip is worth extrapolating on.. (I'm so excited to see Quentin playyyy)

If you have a guard on Mirk it means you have a big on a shooter or Andrej. Mirk had a 2:1 ato with 24-5% usg and less than 2 tos a game Feb on. I think you can trust him to pass out of a trap or unfavorable matchup to our advantage...
I didn’t say there was going to be a guard on Mirk.

If he is bringing the ball up the court frequently, we aren’t in a good spot. I believe my words were opposing coaches would attack him with quicker guards, I’m thinking more like blitzing.
 
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And we saw Mirk back people down from anywhere outside the post how many times last year?

Seemed like it must’ve been 100 at least, just on OOB plays alone.

Obviously that’s an slight exaggeration, but I just don’t share your concern. Remember the MSU game when we attacked Fears relentlessly with Mirkovic? He finished with 18 points 6 rebounds 6 assists and zero turnovers.

If he is bringing the ball up the court frequently, we aren’t in a good spot.

He did this a lot last season. You expect him to get worse at it?
 
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Feel like Houston did that, and he just picked them a part on passes over the top and back downs.
Well, don’t just go on feel, go back and watch the video.

Houston didn’t guard Mirk with their guards and he wasn’t the primary ball handler, that was Keaton and Boswell. Anytime he had a guard on him was due to the way Houston defended the PNR and within the flow of the offense. It was Tomi who was passing over the D and Mirk was getting shots and layups from Tomi assists.
 
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Obviously that’s a slight exaggeration, but I just don’t share your concern. Remember the MSU game when we attacked Fears relentlessly with Mirkovic? He finished with 18 points 6 rebounds 6 assists and zero turnovers.
The very next game against Wisconsin he finished with 1 assist, 4 turnovers.
 
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Well, don’t just go on feel, go back and watch the video.

Houston didn’t guard Mirk with their guards and he wasn’t the primary ball handler, that was Keaton and Boswell. Anytime he had a guard on him was due to the way Houston defended the PNR and within the flow of the offense. It was Tomi who was passing over the D and Mirk was getting shots and layups from Tomi assists.

Houston blitzed plenty of time with both their guards and bigs - that’s Houston.

But now I’m confused, because you just said you didn’t mean guards guarding Mirk, you meant guards blitzing, but now you’re saying you mean guards?

If teams wanna guard or blitz Mirk with small guards and sell out double teams 25 - 30 feet from the hoop, as Brad says when teams press us, I welcome it

Edit - I should say. If mirk is the primary guy bringing it up the court everytime, I don’t know if I’d be concerned perse, but I’d agree with that would be odd. But I feel like something really would have to go off the rails with Vaaks for that to happen. Even then, we play slow enough I really doubt this would be an issue
 
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So 7 assists and 4 turnovers in the 2 games. Not too shabby for a 6'9 ballhandler. (y)

EDIT: The 4 turnovers vs Wisconsin was his highest single game turnover total of the entire season. Also, 5 assists and 1 turnover in the 2nd game vs Wisconsin.
Yes it was probably one of his worst games, especially considering the 3 missed FT in overtime. However, it might’ve also been the game we needed him the most, because both Andrej and Kylan were hurt.

We win that game if the blatant shove in the back on Keaton gets called …. or the 10 second in the backcourt. (I think bald head ref is retiring, so that’s one positive)
 
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We win that game if the blatant shove in the back on Keaton gets called …. or the 10 second in the backcourt. (I think bald head ref is retiring, so that’s one positive)
Bald head ref highlights from this game.

He ruled this a Jump Ball (costing us 2pts):

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Not a 10 second despite literally staring at the play:

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Houston blitzed plenty of time with both their guards and bigs - that’s Houston.

But now I’m confused, because you just said you didn’t mean guards guarding Mirk, you meant guards blitzing, but now you’re saying you mean guards?

If teams wanna guard or blitz Mirk with small guards and sell out double teams 25 - 30 feet from the hoop, as Brad says when teams press us, I welcome it

Edit - I should say. If mirk is the primary guy bringing it up the court everytime, I don’t know if I’d be concerned perse, but I’d agree with that would be odd. But I feel like something really would have to go off the rails with Vaaks for that to happen. Even then, we play slow enough I really doubt this would be an issue

What's a "blitz" in basketball? . . .
 
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What's a "blitz" in basketball? . . .
Typically when you are on defense and the guy you are guarding sets a screen and you leave your man and go and trap the ball handler aggressively. Alot times to prevent the ball handler from turning the corner and getting down hill or to his spot.
 
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Unlike many on here, the more frequent we rely on Mirk to bring the ball up the court or play de facto pg duties, expect opposing defensive coaches to attack him with quicker and handsy defenders.

In one of the videos, Coleman ripped him…actually straight up took it from him.
Mirk brought the ball up when the defense was tight on Wagler. Then we set a screen in the offense and got Wagler the ball.
If the little guy is tight on Mirk in the backcourt he will pass to the guard, who will bring up the ball.
 
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Seemed like it must’ve been 100 at least, just on OOB plays alone.

Obviously that’s an slight exaggeration, but I just don’t share your concern. Remember the MSU game when we attacked Fears relentlessly with Mirkovic? He finished with 18 points 6 rebounds 6 assists and zero turnovers.



He did this a lot last season. You expect him to get worse at it?
Yeah, you’re off just a little bit. Probably closer to being off by 100 than the other way. An OOB play isn’t within the offense and we all know Illinois OOB plays probably didn’t convert anywhere near that many all season long.

As far as him getting worse in bringing the ball up the court, I sure hope not. The same way Coleman ripped him in the video, that same thing happened against MSU, Minny, Maryland, Wisconsin, and Penn right off the top of my head.
 
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Houston blitzed plenty of time with both their guards and bigs - that’s Houston.

But now I’m confused, because you just said you didn’t mean guards guarding Mirk, you meant guards blitzing, but now you’re saying you mean guards?

If teams wanna guard or blitz Mirk with small guards and sell out double teams 25 - 30 feet from the hoop, as Brad says when teams press us, I welcome it

Edit - I should say. If mirk is the primary guy bringing it up the court everytime, I don’t know if I’d be concerned perse, but I’d agree with that would be odd. But I feel like something really would have to go off the rails with Vaaks for that to happen. Even then, we play slow enough I really doubt this would be an issue
I live in Houston, so I am well aware of what their MO is. Yes, they did blitz us, but nowhere near their normal rate.

Yes, Houston and other opponents will end up with a guard on him with switches and other PNR defenses. That isn’t what I was talking about with teams guarding him with guards. I was talking about when Mirk brings the ball up the court, he won’t be guarded by guards. If Mirk is our frequent answer to getting our offense started, look for aggressive defenses to pressure him with more than a 4.

Mirk is indeed a playmaker. He has good court vision and can pass. He also turns the ball over at the top of the key when pressured.

While Brad welcomes pressure, it is all good when it works, and we’ve seen it work in the tournament. However, we have also seen when it doesn’t work as well. Mich, Maryland, and MSU didn’t really need guards to cause the problems or ineffectiveness or errors from Mirk.
 
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Yeah, you’re off just a little bit. Probably closer to being off by 100 than the other way. An OOB play isn’t within the offense and we all know Illinois OOB plays probably didn’t convert anywhere near that many all season long.

As far as him getting worse in bringing the ball up the court, I sure hope not. The same way Coleman ripped him in the video, that same thing happened against MSU, Minny, Maryland, Wisconsin, and Penn right off the top of my head.

MSU was the game I noted where he repeatedly picked on your quick handsy Fears to the tune of 18 points 6 assists and 0 turnovers. Odd that you’d use a game where he didn’t even have a single turnover as an example of him not being reliable with the ball.

It doesn’t seem like you’re watching the same games the rest of us are watching. David needs to be a secondary/tertiary ball handler, but to be concerned about that is odd to me because he did that last year and was phenomenal.
 
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