Illini Basketball 2026-2027

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#951      
Experience matters. Also, Cofie was USC’s best player last year after CBM quit the team (either him or Ezra Asar). He averaged 9.9 points, 6.8 rebounds, 1.9 assists, 1.8 blocks, 0.9 steals.

Just provides a lot of things in a lot of areas.

He’s primarily recruited a small forward, but can play both as he’s extremely versatile.

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At USC, he’ll likely play SF because they have so much talent with Cofie, Reibe, and the Ratliff twins filling the 4 and the 5.

About the original point, Collins is likely the best “backup wing” in the big ten. And if he starts over either Arenas or Lewis, then those guys take that spot likewise. Jake is great at what he does, but those guys provide lots more firepower.

I do think Davis is 2nd. And yes, I will take him over Kur Teng at USC. Teng just averaged more points because he attempted more threes, but the efficiency stats are much more in Jake’s favor.

Teng posted an Offensive Box Plus Minus of 1.6, while Jake was at 4.3. Teng posted offensive win shares of 0.7 compared to Jake’s 1.9.

Jake also posted a better Defensive BPM of 3.1 compared to Teng’s 2.0. Both had identical Defensive Win Shares (0.8).

Most notably, Jake had an offensive rating of 149.0 which led the country, while Teng was at 108.9.
Exactly. Experience matters. You just argued against your own point. Jake is proven and a senior. Collins is a 6'8 200lb undersized power forward who will get thrown around by the bigger older guys and has zero ability to shoot. He is way too raw at this point. Jake Dsvis is actually bigger than Collins and you would assume he'll be even better and stronger this year than last. Last time I checked, Collins didn't start on a final 4 team. Collins 3 years from now? Sure. But not now
 
#954      
I remember getting my arse handed to me arguing Domask was our point guard

Apparently to be a PG, you have to average 5+ assists and be shorter than 6'4
The problem with that team wasn't point guard.

It was not having a shot blocker / true 5 man. We were so low resistance on the interior, with Coleman just left on an island. Reason our defense was bad most of the year.

Dainja was unreliable/unplayable against good teams, couldn't shoot, and was not a shot blocker. Someone like Tomislav Ivisic or Zvonimir Ivisic would've done wonders for that team (much more than RayJ Dennis).

The point guard thing is just an example of dumb narratives being pushed by national pundits. It was never an issue. Domask averaged 4 assists per game, was a great initatior, and we had the number 3 offense.
 
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The problem with that team wasn't point guard.

It was not having a shot blocker / true 5 man. We were so low resistance on the interior, with Coleman just left on an island. Reason our defense was bad most of the year.

Dainja was unreliable/unplayable against good teams, couldn't shoot, and was not a shot blocker. Someone like Tomislav Ivisic or Zvonimir Ivisic would've done wonders for that team (much more than RayJ Dennis).

The point guard thing is just an example of dumb narratives being pushed by national pundits. It was never an issue. Domask averaged 4 assists per game, was a great initatior, and we had the number 3 offense.
Even Brad said Ty Rodgers was our point guard. When you have an undersized power forward who can't shoot as your point guard, yes, you have a point guard problem. Its not just a narrative, its reality. At least on the offensive side.
 
#956      
The problem with that team wasn't point guard.

It was not having a shot blocker / true 5 man. We were so low resistance on the interior, with Coleman just left on an island. Reason our defense was bad most of the year.

Dainja was unreliable/unplayable against good teams, couldn't shoot, and was not a shot blocker. Someone like Tomislav Ivisic or Zvonimir Ivisic would've done wonders for that team (much more than RayJ Dennis).

The point guard thing is just an example of dumb narratives being pushed by national pundits. It was never an issue. Domask averaged 4 assists per game, was a great initatior, and we had the number 3 offense.
I think it was a little bit of an issue early on. Domask didnt really start playing point until late December and then to his credit he improved immensely over the next few months. Don't know if I've ever seen a player so clearly grow as much as he did that season. For example, early on it seemed like he was a bit late to identify and pass when doubled but then he was shredding them by Feb/March.

Not having a legitimate 7 footer and rim protector was definitely a match up problem against UConn and Purdue but I think they were just as badly missing a sharpshooter.

Take a say Andrew Funk from Penn State and put him on that roster and I think the impact of not having a true center is minimized because opposing centers wouldn't be able to guard Illinois on the perimeter of they were running out a lineup of Domask, Shannon, Funk, Guerrier, and Coleman.

Sidenote: I also think Mayer would have actually been a monster on that years team if he was asked to play more off ball and defend like Guerrier.
 
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Ugh I’m just so jealous of the powerhouse of USC. Why are they just so lucky! /s
You know what’s crazy? I just took a visit to the various USC message board, and not one thread has any discussion about Illinois’ lineup. Weird, right???

Even crazier, there’s hardly any discussion about basketball at all!! Perhaps we can sneak up and surprise the Trojans and their far superior 6th through 10th man lineup this coming season.
 
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Seen on FB — Davis and Vaaks are yuuuge
 
#962      
The problem with that team wasn't point guard.

It was not having a shot blocker / true 5 man. We were so low resistance on the interior, with Coleman just left on an island. Reason our defense was bad most of the year.

Dainja was unreliable/unplayable against good teams, couldn't shoot, and was not a shot blocker. Someone like Tomislav Ivisic or Zvonimir Ivisic would've done wonders for that team (much more than RayJ Dennis).

The point guard thing is just an example of dumb narratives being pushed by national pundits. It was nevertheless aan issue. Domask averaged 4 assists per game, was a great initatior, and we had the number 3 offense.
Dainja gave reliable results in very few minutes...
 
#968      
To give a few of the talking heads the benefit of the doubt, Vaaks did have quite a bit lower of an assist rate than Keaton last year (Keaton’s was 23.2 vs 18.1 for Vaaks).
I feel like this is a fair point and an irrelevant point at the same time.

Vaaks's assist rate last year: 18.1

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If you ask those same FO68 guys, or any other "Illinois doesn't have a point guard" outspoken... who FLORIDA'S point guard is?

The answer you'll get is Boogie Fland, almost assuredly.

Boogie Fland assist rate last year: 18.2.

But – Vaaks is 6"7 while Boogie is 6"2.

......

If you ask who Texas's point guard is, the answer you'll get is Isiah Johnson.

Johnson's assist rate: 18.6.

But – Vaaks is 6”7 while Johnson is 6”1.

…..

If you ask who Louisville’s point guard is, the answer you'll get is Jackson Shelstad.

Shelstad assist rate last time he played a legitimate season: 15.5

But – Shelstad is 6”1 while Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If you ask who UCLA's point guard is, the answer you'll get is either Jaylen Petty or Trent Perry.

Perry assist rate last year: 16.8
Petty assist rate: 12.3

But – Petty is 6”1, Perry is 6”4, Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If Vaaks was 6”2, no one would be having that conversation, ever.
 
#969      
You know what’s crazy? I just took a visit to the various USC message board, and not one thread has any discussion about Illinois’ lineup. Weird, right???

Even crazier, there’s hardly any discussion about basketball at all!! Perhaps we can sneak up and surprise the Trojans and their far superior 6th through 10th man lineup this coming season.
I’ll start building this giant horse structure as a piece offering to the Trojans. But don’t worry, it’ll be hollow inside so we can all jump in, and they’ll allow us in that way. That’s how we’ll sneak in!

Someone may write a story about it one day!
 
#972      
I feel like this is a fair point and an irrelevant point at the same time.

Vaaks's assist rate last year: 18.1

…..

If you ask those same FO68 guys, or any other "Illinois doesn't have a point guard" outspoken... who FLORIDA'S point guard is?

The answer you'll get is Boogie Fland, almost assuredly.

Boogie Fland assist rate last year: 18.2.

But – Vaaks is 6"7 while Boogie is 6"2.

......

If you ask who Texas's point guard is, the answer you'll get is Isiah Johnson.

Johnson's assist rate: 18.6.

But – Vaaks is 6”7 while Johnson is 6”1.

…..

If you ask who Louisville’s point guard is, the answer you'll get is Jackson Shelstad.

Shelstad assist rate last time he played a legitimate season: 15.5

But – Shelstad is 6”1 while Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If you ask who UCLA's point guard is, the answer you'll get is either Jaylen Petty or Trent Perry.

Perry assist rate last year: 16.8
Petty assist rate: 12.3

But – Petty is 6”1, Perry is 6”4, Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If Vaaks was 6”2, no one would be having that conversation, ever.
Maybe some people on here don't view him as a point guard because outside of a few of you on this board, he has NEVER played the point guard or labeled a point guard by any recruiting agencies, sports platforms, or anybody else. You can't beat your opinion into people, time will tell.
 
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I feel like this is a fair point and an irrelevant point at the same time.

Vaaks's assist rate last year: 18.1

…..

If you ask those same FO68 guys, or any other "Illinois doesn't have a point guard" outspoken... who FLORIDA'S point guard is?

The answer you'll get is Boogie Fland, almost assuredly.

Boogie Fland assist rate last year: 18.2.

But – Vaaks is 6"7 while Boogie is 6"2.

......

If you ask who Texas's point guard is, the answer you'll get is Isiah Johnson.

Johnson's assist rate: 18.6.

But – Vaaks is 6”7 while Johnson is 6”1.

…..

If you ask who Louisville’s point guard is, the answer you'll get is Jackson Shelstad.

Shelstad assist rate last time he played a legitimate season: 15.5

But – Shelstad is 6”1 while Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If you ask who UCLA's point guard is, the answer you'll get is either Jaylen Petty or Trent Perry.

Perry assist rate last year: 16.8
Petty assist rate: 12.3

But – Petty is 6”1, Perry is 6”4, Vaaks is 6”7.

…..

If Vaaks was 6”2, no one would be having that conversation, ever.
Well that’s the last time I’ll ever give the talking heads the benefit of the doubt.
 
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