Illini Basketball 2026-2027

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Well let’s see… Booth was top 50 RSCI and was behind everyone, and he was a soph. Year prior Hansberry was top 50 RSCI and also was behind pretty much everyone. And we can’t forget top 50 RSCI Omar Payne.

I get that generally a top 50 kid is going to get tick, but saying it’s an absolute certainty is silly.
Neither Booth or Hansberry were top 50 in any of the services (including RSCI).

Payne is interesting because he was purely the backup 5 to Kofi. He was also a senior who was essentially a finished product. (not sub 200 freshman playing over top 50 freshman)

Perhaps there are a few examples, but it's just rare.
 
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If he's athletically superior (I have no clue), if he's a willing rebounder(no clue) and if he's ready to go balls to the wall on that end of the floor..... he'll get minutes with the athleticism being the differentiator. You can't teach that stuff. Despite being awful offensively, Rodgers started on an Elite 8 team because of those characteristics.
He also doesn't need the ball in his hands to be impactful.

It's what Petro and Lee struggled with. Their off ball value just wasn't good enough, and you're just not gonna take the ball out of Keaton's hands or Kylan's hands (this year it'll just be Vaaks and Coleman).
 
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The expectation is it is better than last year. Coleman is pretty far along on that end and Williams has been making a major defensive impact as well. They expect Andrej and Z to become a little more consistent in year two, and Mirk should hold up better considering the type of shape he's now in.
How’s Vaaks been on defense?
 
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Depends on who you're saying will play over Morillo.

If it's Brown or Williams, then the bar is sub 200.

If its Zens, then the bar is 100-150.
Lincoln’s recruiting profile likely needs to be looked at with a bit more nuance. Here’s where he was ranked 6 months ago, before programs began backing off due to off the court issues:

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Another guy to focus on would be Coleman. We have him marked down as a major contributor despite not playing one second of college ball. Can he play defense at the college level? I have no clue, but what we all know is that Brad values that end of the floor to the point where you will not get off the bench if there's a crack. That's a legit concern.
Coleman is our second best defender. It's not a concern.
With all due respect (and I seriously mean that, not being a wise a$$), but you've been dying on the 9th man hill for months. Of ALL of the things to really think about and stew over, that really shouldn't be it. That will work itself out. There are SO MANY factors that go into cracking that part of the rotation and most of it is defense related. Who can come off the bench and hold the fort down for 5 minutes a game. There is where the value is.

Now, injuries are something that can/will take any team out. We were bit by the bug significantly last year, starting with Ty in the summer. Then, Drej, Boswell, Z(nose) and Tomi last year. The year before we couldn't field a team for multiple games because of the flu running through the team and Tomi's mono. If Drej, Mirk, Tomi, Vaaks, etc go down, we have a problem on our hands that no 9th man is going to fix.

Another guy to focus on would be Coleman. We have him marked down as a major contributor despite not playing one second of college ball. Can he play defense at the college level? I have no clue, but what we all know is that Brad values that end of the floor to the point where you will not get off the bench if there's a crack. That's a legit concern.

There will be plenty of competition on the back end of the roster for a contributor to evolve. That's just how this works, especially given players transferring because they literally don't want that role. They don't want to take the time needed to develop. They want to play, thus the Lee departure. What you're looking for, those type of guys generally don't want for themselves and if they are ok with it, it's for one year and year 2 had better result in a significantly larger role.

The 9th man focus has been WAY too over thought. There are 10 things that would sidetrack this team before that concern would factor into the equation.
Your other points may be valid but my post had nothing to do with the 9th man. It was whether Williams will be playing over Morillo.
 
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Depends on who you're saying will play over Morillo.

If it's Brown or Williams, then the bar is sub 200.

If its Zens, then the bar is 100-150.
I'm not saying either is outplaying Morillo. What im saying is that it is common for some number of freshmen ranked over 100 to outperform freshmen ranked about 50. So Morillo's 8th spot is hardly a lock.
 
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With all due respect (and I seriously mean that, not being a wise a$$), but you've been dying on the 9th man hill for months. Of ALL of the things to really think about and stew over, that really shouldn't be it. That will work itself out. There are SO MANY factors that go into cracking that part of the rotation and most of it is defense related. Who can come off the bench and hold the fort down for 5 minutes a game. There is where the value is.
If that's REALLY where the value is... then it'll be Lincoln.

None of those other guys have his defensive ability.
 
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Neither Booth or Hansberry were top 50 in any of the services (including RSCI).

Payne is interesting because he was purely the backup 5 to Kofi. He was also a senior who was essentially a finished product. (not sub 200 freshman playing over top 50 freshman)

Perhaps there are a few examples, but it's just rare.

Booth 59, Hansberry 58, Payne 46

All 3 are comparable, without doubt
 
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Another guy to focus on would be Coleman. We have him marked down as a major contributor despite not playing one second of college ball. Can he play defense at the college level? I have no clue, but what we all know is that Brad values that end of the floor to the point where you will not get off the bench if there's a crack. That's a legit concern.
Coleman's defense is not a legit concern.

It's Vaaks who your writeup would suit perfectly.
 
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If he's athletically superior (I have no clue), if he's a willing rebounder(no clue) and if he's ready to go balls to the wall on that end of the floor..... he'll get minutes with the athleticism being the differentiator. You can't teach that stuff. Despite being awful offensively, Rodgers started on an Elite 8 team because of those characteristics.
Rodgers wasn't even a shooting threat. Williams is.
 
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In reality, probably the smallest concern.

Vaaks -- primary handler.
Coleman -- secondary handler.
Stojakovic, Mirkovic, Morillo can all handle.
Vaaks is 6'7" wing type player. He is not a traditional ballhandler in the way you'd expect, where they can create off the dribble and break pressure off the dribble. Expecting SF's to become your ballhandlers is a recipe for disaster. As of now, it's Coleman, a freshman.
 
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Vaaks is 6'7" wing type player. He is not a traditional ballhandler in the way you'd expect, where they can create off the dribble and break pressure off the dribble. Expecting SF's to become your ballhandlers is a recipe for disaster. As of now, it's Coleman, a freshman.

I think you’re looking at a piece of a paper with height next to it, instead of actually watching Vaaks.

One, he absolutely can create off the dribble. And two, he’s taller than 6’7”
 
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Vaaks is 6'7" wing type player. He is not a traditional ballhandler in the way you'd expect, where they can create off the dribble and break pressure off the dribble. Expecting SF's to become your ballhandlers is a recipe for disaster. As of now, it's Coleman, a freshman.
Height does not determine point guard, here we go again lol.
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